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I'm done, I've been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I've been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I've ever had on any lemmy instance), I've had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I've had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I started paying attention to usernames and noticed that there are only ever 3 or 4 accounts carrying on in the comments about anything, they just go at it like it's their job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

thank you, at least someone is saying it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

While Reddit is mainstream, Lemmy is populated by the fringe. The mass exodus didn't occur by the mainstream, and people with moderate views. It was people with more extreme views from various fronts (privacy, anti-corporation, etc). If Lemmy's and Fediverse growth continues, it will too become mainstream thereby attracting people with mainstream, moderate views.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep, Lemmy is very un-diverse in its struggle to embrace diversity.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Diverse how?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

At least your comment won't be hidden because it has many downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I agree, it is impossible to hold a contrarian view in a lot of subs. The mods and the user base on Lemmy have a very narrow range of their views than the spectrum that you find on Reddit. It is basically an echo chamber in a lot of subs.

The active user base is also soo much smaller that a handful of posters can be seen in certain subs. I see the same people posting over and over at a much higher rate than I saw on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah for a bunch of the subs on here I see the most common comments are the "circlejerky" responses despite being wrong or misleading but there's no point correcting it cause the traffic is so low and it takes too much effort.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So are you posting good content to help the issue? Or are you just posting "contrarian" opinions?

I've never had a problem being banned and I argue with Tankies and Right Wing Chuds all the time (well I mostly just block the Chuds). It sounds like your comments are just bad enough to warrant a block.

I have detailed comments about how both Hamas and the IDF are bad. Here's one: "Hamas is a criminal organization that is terrible at government. It's Israel's fault for letting them grow to be so dangerous. The IDF and Hamas are both bad for the people of Palestine and Israel."

No ban!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Have you tried on hexbear or .ml?

I got banned for explaining the history of ethnic violence in China. Specifically when I brought up a quote about the dangers of Han chauvinism, which of course was called "reactionary". The quote was from Mao.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but... lol. They know very little about Marx, Stalin, Mao, or any of the differences between them. The USSR and the PRC only cooperated when they had to.

It's amazing how "Capitalist" countries can have international relations based on shared ideals and "Communist" countries have mostly transactional relationships. Reminds me of college where the "Daily Worker" was the only paper that cost money. 🤣

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In my experience your views aren’t really contrarian to that of the majority of Lemmy users and mods. Your pretty mainstream and vanilla here.

Try taking a pro Israel stance or pro 2A stance and see how long it will be until you are banned even if you follow all sub rules.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would I take a pro-death stance? If you are being dumb, people are going to tell you. Welcome to the real world. Free speech doesn't mean people have to listen to you.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for making my point for me.

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