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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (4 children)

That article is referencing some 1999 sources and hoping nobody clicks them.

Not seeing any evidence of the claim. The video is irrelevant too. Anyone here got something more credible?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago

Special guest star: Charlie Kirk

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Only a couple of posts above Trump's ally Kirk said children should see executions lmao. These two charmfully synchronized.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

They're two sides of the same coin. Y'all Qaeda living up to its name once more.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I am not here to debate whether public executions are right or wrong but

“Carrying out executions in public adds to the inherent cruelty of the death penalty and can only have a dehumanising effect on the victim and a brutalising effect on those who witness the executions,”

If brutalizing here means people are gonna be shit scared after watching this when even thinking about killing someone, then this is a very bad argument

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (5 children)

No. What happens is the spectators get severely desensitized to violence. Especially if the spectators are young malleable teenagers. And suddenly sawing someone's head off in front of a live broadcast becomes just another day on the job.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The brutalizing effect is the opposite: by seeing this kind of violence, people are more likely to normalize it and engage in violence themselves. That's the hypothesis, anyway.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Huh? After seeing this people will want to kill people? I am talking extra-judicial killing here

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Suppose the theory would be that a spectator doesn't picture himself in the shoes of the executed. Instead they get used to the idea that killing someone isn't so crazy, if they think they deserve it.

I could believe this, particularly if it's on some subconscious level. The rational mind might say "that could be me, I better be careful", but getting desensitized might get rid of some fundamental revulsion. I'd also think the people at risk of committing murder are not likely to trend toward rational thinking, at least not in the moment of the crime.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It does not reduce murder or crime in general - but it DOES devalue human life

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At least they retained the USamerican values after kicking them out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Taliban were assholes long before 9/11.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I suppose they think something similar about your govt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, so? There are many assholes in the world, you know. Pointing at some other group of assholes doesn't make the Taliban not assholes.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

Very insightfull. Is that a quote from Nietzsche?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Taliban were US-backed and US-funded long before 9/11.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That's a common assumption that's based in "they're all the same over there" style of racism.

The group the US backed in the 80s was the mujaheddin, which went to form the government which the Taliban (a separate group) all but overthrew. The last remnants of the pre-Taliban Afghanistan government was called the Northern Alliance, which was allied with the US when fighting the Taliban.

It was politically convenient for the left to along with a racist narrative to score cheap political points against Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld etcl. And yeah, fuck those guys for sure, but it was wrong to go along with a racist narrative to do so. Because of the "they're all the same over there" kind of racism in both the left and right of the US, there wasn't much chance for any kind of success in defeating the Taliban.

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