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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

The U.S. government tried to get rid of immigrants before and replace them with American high school student athletes and most of them quit https://www.kvpr.org/2018-08-23/when-the-u-s-government-tried-to-replace-migrant-farmworkers-with-high-schoolers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

So farmers should get free slave labor provided by me? Because nothing else in our system would change. No thanks lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

When we still had mandatory military service in Germany, one could alternatively choose to work in social services for 1-1,5 years. I worked a year in a hospital as an assistance nurse. Others worked in youth centers, community center or retirement homes. That year was not a pleasant one, as Zivis (thats what we were called) got exploited by the hospital stuff (always getting the worst shifts, always getting the shitty jobs, being used for jobs we were not qualified to do and so on).

Despite that I honestly think it was worth it. It helped to find oneself to do something different before starting university and it also helped to improve social and medical services.

The only real criticism I have is the aforementioned exploitation. There should have been better mechanisms in place to prevent this. And maybe the payment should have been a little better. I think we got ~8€/calender day plus free board and lodging; this wasn't great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Before 1989 there was also a third option: move to West Berlin!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I honestly unironically support it. Lots of people should go touch some grass sometimes. It gives you some movement, builds an understanding for where our food "really comes from", and connects people in a way similar to the military, but less targeted on warfare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Would make sense, if it wasn't an exploitation scheme.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

The only problem is the exploitative angle of the whole thing. They do underpaid work, but the farm owning corporation gets to keep the profits.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Would've done me a lot of good when I was young that's for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You can be an exploited, underpaid and overworked farm laborer pretty easily if that's something you want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds good. Too bad the rich and politically powerful will be able to dodge, just like they dodge the draft.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Great idea from Soviet Union. Just ask them, how this turned out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pretty sure the quota system and the complete govt disregard for ag-science was to blame, and not the Labor force for that one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

With Trump's cabinet picks, the US can get the complete government disregard for agricultural science too.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

You are right. The government disregard for anything contributed largely for the demise of the union.

However, I am fortunate enough to never experience this, but my parents had to participate in kolkhozes and it was terrible.

I guess, what I am trying to say is, MAGA would not appreciate such an agricultural system.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Holy shit, Horseshoe Theory IS real

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Older Hungarian rightists are begging Fidesz to reinvent mandatory labor because "the youth is lazy".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Silly "leftists" when Conservatives reinvent Maoism: 😱

Seriously though, horseshoe theory is nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Turns out that the "Great Leap Forward" is actually circular.

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