I guess it streamlines the naming a little bit, but it sounds like the mapping of the hardware to the names is still a mess. I've used XPS laptops for years, but had already decided my next would be a Framework. This just reinforces that decision.
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I remember the XPS Was "Ubuntu Certified" thats what i think when i first see the Laptop.
Prepared to be heartbroken ~
The latest XPS laptops really seem like they wanted to copy MacBook Pros from a few years ago with the touch function keys and the barren I/O.
I never really understood the purpose of the XPS line anyway. If you want performance, buy a Precision; if you want a light robust laptop with decent I/O, get a Latitude; if you want a MacBook, get a MacBook.
With that being said the new naming scheme feels like a joke. What's wrong with recognisable model names?
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The newest generation of xps i shit anyways, good riddance.
i was really happy with my 2019ish xps. But the 2024 one is hot garbage. not just that it arrived with the keyboard not working and Dell taking 3 months to replace it. There's a total of 2 usb-c ports on it. That's all the connectors, yes. No, no headphone jack either. And one of those two is taken up with charging, so i'm left with one port if i dont use a dockingstation.
the whole function bar is touch now. you need to hit it 3 times for it to react, who needs Esc anyways. Unless you want to type in the number row, then the function row will pick up random key presses sometimes.
Copilot key no one asked for. Power button is just an unlabelled piece of plastic that looks like filler, not a button. Keyboard sucks in general, too little space between keys, you're bound to mistype.
linux support is ok, though webcam doesn't work in firefox, hibernate doesn't work, every few weeks it'll just freeze. But otherwise acceptable.
definitely my last dell, i really hate it.
[Edit] Oh and I forgot the best part, when the dell repairman finally repaired it after 3 months, he said "oh a new XPS? Yeah, those suck, every customer hates them especially for software development"
I bought a Precision 5480. Looks like an xps but better. Was so good I bought the 5490 for work a few months later. Would recommend.
Is the precision decent for gaming?
I have a precision 3571 and it's pretty solid, I've been using it as my main gaming computer because it's better than my old PC, it does have a few drawbacks tho.
Pros:
- dedicated Ethernet, HDMI, headphone, and 2 USB ports as well as a second USB-c port besides the charging one that can be converted to other things with a dongle - I usually run it with external keyboard, mouse and monitor
- decent battery, can do a few hours of light gaming on just the battery or a full day of just browser
Cons:
- fan intake doesn't have enough space when sitting on a flat surface and will overheat easily, so I have to elevate it with something to increase the gap of hang it over the side of my desk. This does solve most overheating problems though.
- for some reason helldivers runs way worse than it has any right to, my theory is that their game engine just really doesn't work with the weird laptop GPU, an RTX A1000
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Would recommend to not recommend Dell to future buyers, it’s not Apple vs Samsung like in the smartphone options of US.
That's a very weird take. I didn't blanket recommend Dell, but a specific model.
Fr, Especially when they Maintain DKMS(Not a Device ik but used by most Distros).
I mean… Dell Pro Max ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Something I think is a lot more interesting than them changing names of product lines is that almost all Dells ship with an OEM version of windows which reaches EoL faster, like 5 years sooner, and is more expensive to get a replacement disk image.
I had a tower about 10 years ago that I converted into a dinky little Linux Server, it worked really well all things considered.
replacing them with three main product lines: Dell (yes, just Dell), Dell Pro, and Dell Pro Max.
PC/Android companies not trying to blatantly rip off Apple challenge: Impossible
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Intensely dumb.
EDIT: The Pro Plus Premium Max etc words all jumbled up together just don't fit well with me. I'd need to keep referring to the chart in the article to avoid confusing between all the models.
Should have just borrowed Lenovo 30 naming schemes
Not sure which is the dumbest, Jaguar letting go of its signature mark or HBO renaming themselves to just Max but would be funny if Apple abandoned the Max naming for Ultra.
I'd like people to actually read the article before commenting. They are renaming their laptops. They'll continue producing what would've been XPS.
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so honestly, who would you use now? I'd never buy HP, Acer, Lenovo. total crap machines. what other brands of laptop are any good going into 2025/2026? The XPS was always my go-to but now what options are remaining?
As I work with HP and HPE at work:
Just don't buy anything below ProBook and EliteBook. They are trash.
In fact, don't buy anything you see at an electronic retailer without looking and inspecting the product very intensely.
And buy the business-line. They are usually better than consumer product lines.
I honestly still like Thinkpad. Using a T14s currently.
I love my framework, though it's not as small and battery efficient as my previous xps 13
Dell XPS and Lenovo X1 Carbon are the best laptops for running Linux. I currently have an AMD Framework and, while it's nice that it's repairable, Linux support is crap compared to the XPS and X1. I was actually looking into selling this junk Framework laptop and buying an X1 Carbon.
What don't you like about your Framework? I haven't noticed anything wrong with mine, but haven't had it long.
At this point I build my desktops and I'll buy Framework laptops.
Yes, I’ll take one Dell Pro Max Premium please. Heck, while we’re it, please make it a Dell Pro Max Premium Ultra Deluxe with Extra Sprinkles.
Ugh.
Looks like I won't be getting a Dell anytime soon. Shame. I loved my last XPS before they decides to nuke the ports with just two USB-C.
Nobody will
I-- wow. I read this article and I have no idea what they're thinking. How does this simplify anything?!