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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They're afraid of giving one-legged men the power to luck their asses.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why are US citzens not founding a health care co-op? Are there even viable solutions left over there?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Lots but a couple of note:

Health insurance already has deals with pharmaceuticals and hospitals to charge a specific rate. The buy in on these deals is cost prohibitive to some degree. Think legal and administrative cost, especially when working between municipalities and States, let alone from hospital to hospital.

Health sharing ministries are a form of this. They have tied the concept to religious roots which is often limiting e.g. women's and queer healthcare. They also have horror stories in the same abubdance as the big corps.

There's nothing technically stopping a coop from forming short of startup capital and legal status. But those are insanely large hurdles.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Between the regulatory capture and corporate/political bribery, it'll be tough to change anything from a grassroots perspective.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

You think a CEO has ever been beaten near death with a broken prosthetic limb? Just asking maybe that's a thing.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if someone cut off the CEO's limbs, would the medical necessity of prosthetic limbs would be questioned?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

That's not how it works. The CEO is so wealthy that the insurance companies treat them for free because of all the business they bring in from enrolling their workers.

We don't hear stories about the soft privileges of being in a position of power very often but they tend to be immense. We're just not in the club so we would never know.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You know, maybe we should force healthcare CEOs to be insured with the lowest tier of their own insurance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kinda misses the point because they have their own money to pay for whatever treatments they want, even if their company regularly denies them to clients. Buying insurance is gambling against the house, just health insurance has that extra bit where the insurance companies somehow have a say in what treatments they'll cover.

That's why the rich don't gaf about ruining public services. They can still just hire someone to do it for them and if the government isn't providing the service for everyone else, they'll also need to hire someone to do those things, meaning some capitalist can set up a business to profit from the need the government no longer meets.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

True. I almost forgot you can pay with your own money. When you dont have any disposable income, you don’t even consider that some people can afford to pay for things out of insurance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Like some kind of new saw movie lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This leads me to question the social necessity of companies gatekeeping medical services

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But if it was socialized we would have death panels lol like this isn't already a death panel with less guardrails

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That "death panels" bullshit was such obvious propaganda.

The answer should've been "death panels already exist, would you rather them be civil servants or for-profit insurance agency accountants?"

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I think it's about time for an organized mass murder of all healthcare ceos.... Maybe then they'll learn? Or do we need to go after the shareholders too? What will it take? How can we make them quiver in their boots half as much as they fucked us out of paychecks only to tell us to get bent when we request the care we've paid for?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Luigi was right all along

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