i didn't think i ever used CDRW for music, only CD-R. not sure why
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i find it much more reliable. its also cheaper
I hate being GenZ I don't even know yet there's more than one type of CD
I'm a mid-to-older millennial. My elders would say shit like "What? You don't know how to use a gramophone? You young whippersnappers are completely worthless." And I find that behavior absolutely abhorrent.
If you were here in person, I'd offer to spend some time burning some CDs. I've still got a computer with some pretty decent optical drives laying around. I can probably even scare up some blank discs. We'd find some music, burn it to a disc and then try it out on my old boom box.
As long as you gave them the full experience with tossing a disc in the trash because of a buffer overrun. Damn Nero software!
And weird bugs like Windows audio somehow creeping into audio CD burns. Or the times in Linux where the tray would refuse to open or close. I used to keep a paper clip next to my next to force it open sometimes....
I don't miss that hardware.
I had pretty good luck burning discs, they would occasionally fail.
I had a CD-RW I used for my mp3 player, and the software I used (Roxio) had this mode where you could treat the disc like any other mass storage device, you could add a single file.
For our young friend SagXD, burning a CD usually had to be done as a whole. You'd arrange all the files (if a data disc) or audio tracks (if an audio disc) in a buffer, and then burn the entire disc in one shot. If done at "1x" speed, it could take an hour, but "8x" speeds were pretty common, if more error prone. With my rewritable CD, I could add a single file if I wanted to and not have to rewrite the entire disc. Adding a single song to the iPod I got in college wasn't much less rigamarole.
CD: the kind you buy from a store with content already on it. Mass-produced with methods and equipment not available in the consumer electronics market, because it was never really necessary. Also includes CD-ROM (Read Only Memory) for data/files read by a computer instead of music alone
CD-R (Recordable): can be written ("burned") once and only once. As mentioned in another comment, it may deteriorate over time because of how the disc gets written, but by the time that happens you'll probably forget you had that disc
CD-RW (ReWriteable): Can be written like a CD-R, but you can also erase it and write on it again. More expensive, and I believe some readers had trouble with it, but in a world where data storage was expensive and small this was still a useful thing to have
DVDs had a similar thing, except there were variants where the - was a +, eg DVD+R and DVD+RW. I can't remember the difference there, but it was pretty trivial. There was also a relatively obscure DVD-RAM that had random access memory. That was pretty cool as well, kind of an alternative to DVR that wasn't a VHS tape. No need to lose everything you had if you wanted to add more to it
Sure, let's downvote him for being honest, well done redd.. Lemmy.
Same, there's like 3 or 4 ๐
CD-R is written in an organic-dye, which deteriorates ( I've read the AZO chemistry is more enduring )
CD-RW is written in the crystallization of a metal layer.
CD-RW is permanent record, unless you heat them, or blank them, or overwrite/rewrite them: chemical-deterioration isn't a problem.
I learned this with backups, many many years ago.
I've no idea if DVD-RW discs also are recorded in a eutectic metal layer, but they've multiple record-layers ( 2? ), and I'm don't know how you can make a eutectic-metal layer that is transparent-enough to get through/past it to write the next layer,
so I've no idea how permanent DVD-RW's are.
I've lost data on the -R technology.
I've never lost data on the CD-RW technology.
Did I hit my head and wake up in 2002?
im sorry i just like cds ๐ฅบ
Won't lie, for a short period I had a Sony mini disk set up and I don't think I can ever appreciate other modern physical mediums of music as much.
And I can't explain why other than personal biast reasons, either.
The mini-disk could/should have been king!
I can. Subjectively, MD wasnโt as delicate as CD-R was. None of my old CD-Rs are readable anymore.
In 2008? CD-R, they're cheap and you aren't going to change the songs on the disc rather than just burn a new disc entirely.
In 2024? micro SDXC card in my phone.
Do any phones even have that anymore?
Pretty sure it's easier to find a phone with a mini SD slot than a phone with a CD player.
But it's easier to find a phone with a CD player than a phone with cassette player.
Can't argue with that!
Mid range Samsungs and pretty much everything that's not made by either Apple, Google, or Samsung still has it. We are just in the ridiculous situation that the more expensive the phone the less functionality it has.
miniDisc FTW
For sure.
My mini disc cost as much as the first iPod when it came out. It was either 3 or 5 of the discs equaled it's storage and I think it even took rechargeable AA batteries. Or at least had an attachment that would work with them.
And it has the remote in the cord that gave song title and playlist info.
It was better in everyway. But the promise of "new" and the marketing made everyone go iPod. I never met a single other person at the time that had a mini disc.
But being able to just swap a disc with someone at school and then upload it back to your computer at home would have been huge at the time.
Literal peer to peer file sharing without the internet. And it might have been normalized for an entire generation if Steve Jobs wasn't so good at marketing.