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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

HHC . Legal . Period :D

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Title is misleading. Officially it's not possible to "buy" weed, you only get it from your social club "for free" with a monthly membership fee. Clever way to get around the "buying" aspect

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Spain has a similar system, though even more poorly legislated, putting it in a weird grey zone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

as a german i feel divided, on one hand its a step in the right direction, on the other hand it doesn't go remotely far enough in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@WallEx @misk As far as I see it, it is still (probably) the most liberal cannabis legislation in the EU. So… yay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

10 Dutch cities legalised weed not too long ago. They legalised the production and sale. The coffee shops and other shops in those cities all sell 100% legal weed. So, yeah…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@novibe Also, (I think,) weed is technically still illegal in the Netherlands, but for example possession up to 5g is tolerated by simply not enforcing the law.
Germany on the other hand fully legalized possession of up to 25g (50g).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I wonder how it works given you can grow up to three plants, but the yield from that would be far more than 25g

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

@novibe Yes, but that's still just experimental / in a testing phase and how most coffee shops operate currently is a legal grey area. And I don't expect that to change soon, because ultimately they can't fully legalize cannabis for the same reasons Germany could not: it would conflict with EU regulations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think this is perfect. Make it legal but non-commercial. It should not be allowed to make a profit off of other people's addiction and there shouldn't be financial incentives to get people addicted as quickly as possible.

I wish they would do the same for alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I would be very careful with that. Not official alcohol for example can be very dangerous if the person making it does not know about methanol, which is toxic. If it is not destilled properly, it can end up in the final mix and cause dangerous problems. I guess it goes with other drugs as well. People will still make a profit from it, just without taxes. It's just easier to justify having some plants at home. So the state is missing out on drug taxes, which could be quite high (lol).

So by creating drug stores, where you can buy controlled, legal drugs would be a lot mor profitable for the state, healthier for society and better for the consumer.

This half assed weird regulation will be used by the conservative parties to justify blocking further legalisation by arguing it's already free I guess

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There are definitely financial incentives, they are just underground now. Which is worse in every way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Ah yeah because dealers didnt exist before? Also it will be allowed to run non profit clubs to grow weed as a community. And you can grow it at home so no incentive for underground markets at all. Dealers are gonna slowly disappear if anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think this is fine because while people should be allowed to do light drugs I don't mind making them jump through some hoops so that it's not that convenient. Alcohol and nicotine are definitely way too accessible and it affects perception of this law.

I use cannabis in Poland where we accidentally legalized it by allowing doctors to prescribe it online which combined with corruption means anyone who wants it can get it but it's not so obvious unless you're interested.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think if you're not harming anyone else you should be allowed to do whatever you want. I don't see, why drugs are prohibited in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well, who's gonna pay for your medical care when you inevitably develop drug problems/health issues. So in a socialized healthcare system, you are harming others with it.

(And not offering treatment or making the patient pay for it which they often won't be able to, would be very inhumane imo)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Well, who’s gonna pay for your medical care when you inevitably develop drug problems/health issues.

The same that pays for alcoholics, injuries from extreme sports and people suffering from heart attacks because of an unhealthy lifestyle already?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s easy to harm other people by doing drugs. For example, a parent who smokes will make life worse for their child.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Thats not people doing drugs, thats parents being harmful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it reads like they will have weed guilds

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Actually yes . They are told growing clubs but weed guilds is way better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And I wonder what their naming thing deal would be like for the strains: "If you want to chill out for the night, Klaus, you could try this heavy indica called Teutonic Train Safety Standards as we don't have train wrecks in Germany."

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