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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

We should just go ahead and pronounce all acronyms the way their unabbreviated forms’ first syllable letters are said. Just ignore we treat individual letters differently than the words they came from.

The CIA should sound like “see ya” Department of Transportation “Duht” Internal Revenue Service “ears”

Etc.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Helen is wearing socks with sandals. Helen don't give a single phuck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why use C and K in socks when they are pronounced the same?

New spelling: Sokks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nah, gotta go with soks - can't have that redundant k in there!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Socc is the correct spelling now, because its "soccer" not Sokker (or Soker).

This is a hill I am willing to die on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Language evolves over time to become shortened for convenience.

Therefore sox is now the correct spelling. You all are using archaic spelling variations. Sox is always plural. I'm sure this will cause no confusion.

On a less anarchist note, spelling wasn't standardized until the early 1900s.

So up until then, sox, soccs, socs, sokks, soks, and socks were all valid ways to refer to foot panties.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The J is pronounced like the J in Jesus (Spanish pronunciation)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Say gift. Now what you're going to do next is leave out the T but enunciate the gif part the same way. Fuck you jif people!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll tell the agile fragile fugitive gin-drinking giraffes eating ginger ginseng to imagine gingerly using their digits to engineer a geological survey of the gist of your comment. They ate too much gingerbread and now have gingivitis, so the margins of those attracted to religion aren't as rigid as the original origins of those of that region and we have to remain vigilant lest magic supersede logic, which of course would be terrible for legislation of the legions.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Coming from the jif camp myself, I’d just like to point out it’s jay-phej.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's pronounced like yiff. I have spoken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Great, now search for communities with 'yiff' here on lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's a fantastic idea ;P

Still kicking myself for joining Pawb and not Yiffit <.<

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why don't you just pronounce it "gee-eye-eff"?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Because that way madness lies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If you have to spell it wrong to show how you pronounce it that should be a sighn

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well shit.... I've been living a lie.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly have never understood the gif debate. Words sometimes have multiple pronunciations. They're both fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How dare you not pick a side. Your neutrality sickens me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Tell my wife I said "hello"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Somehow, I can tolerate "jpheg" much easier than the forsaken "jif."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't pronounce the word for imagery as "jrafics?" How odd.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Jif" is the original pronunciation. It is a pun, a play on the word "jif" short for "jiffy" meaning a short amount of time, as in "I'll send it to you in a gif". The newer pronunciation has become popular based on the fallacious reasoning that an acronym should be pronounced the same as its constituent words, which isn't a thing at all.

Language evolves, and both pronunciations are common enough to be considered acceptable. The only way to be wrong about how to pronounce the word is to claim one of the pronunciations is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's Gif and I don't care what anyone says

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't care either. Now excuse me while I go gerk off.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah well I say drink more Ovaltine

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Become popular? It's been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format. It's hardly language's fault the developer wanted to make an unfunny reference to a since forgotten peanut butter slogan.

On the other hand linguistics indicate a hard g sound with the construction of the word, constituent words aside. Plenty of four letter words starting with the gi combo have a hard g, including but not limited to gift which you may notice is very similarly constructed.

Whatever else the English language may throw at us, people appreciate consistency because we can make some sense of the world. A hard g is the consistent, predictable, sensible choice for the limited availability of those virtues English offers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Become popular? It's been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format.

I'm gonna stop you there, because I've been using the format for about 30 years, and people only started using the new pronunciation in the last 10-15.

Everything you said about linguistics is entirely crap. English is not a proscriptive language. English linguistics doesn't indicate anything at all. It is descriptive, and is anything but consistent. There are no rules about word construction or pronunciation. Words are pronounced the way they are understood, and if you are understood then you have pronounced them correctly.

You could argue that the original pronunciation is archaic, like "encyclopaedia," but the problem there is that the word itself is like 35 years old, and there are people like me who have been using the word since there was only one acceptable pronunciation who aren't likely to change.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It's been popular in use but casual everyday people weren't always bringing them up in conversation.

English is not consistent, accept that. You can say gif but I'll continue to call it gif.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

English is not consistent, accept that. You can say gif but I'll continue to call it gif.

That doesn't mean we have an ehxcuse to haje jt worse

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Jif is where it's at. Peanut butter and image format? Yes please

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The creators literally referenced this early on "choosy devs choose gif" like the jiff peanut butter commercial.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

this goes deeper than I thought!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But Jif in Australia is a cleaning solution - can we have different pronunciations based on country?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No need, it's Gif. Heathens be damned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Y'all love diminutives, call them jiffies?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Jiffy is already an abstract measurement of time though

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