Live feed of WWLTV Channel 4 in New Orleans (independent CBS affiliate): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EApLbIRtArk
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Bollards save lives. All pedestrian areas should be protected from cars by some kind of physical barrier. This protects against intentional attacks and drunk driving incidents.
There are bollards around the quarter during events. Reports are that the truck. Intensionally avoided and drove through barriers
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I agree with you that bollards save lives, but this appears to be a situation where normally drivable streets are closed off for a street party. Is there a feasible way to temporarily block those streets with something that would stop these incidents and also not damage the road (and also not cost taxpayers a ridiculous amount, obviously)?
Yes, block them permanently. Fuck cars.
I'm sure New Orleans will get on that right after they put solar panels on every building, a windmill on top of every skyscraper, and free food and education for all.
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Bollards that can raise/lower aren't that expensive and they don't need to be mechanized. Back at my university, they'd raise them when they'd close off driveable areas for events and there's just a hook to lift them up and secure at a higher height with a lock. They were made of solid metal and concrete so I assume they had some sort of counterweight underneath to help raise them.
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A simple solution to me would be to place concrete blocks like this
Using a truck like this
Not possible. The French quarter is very small with narrow streets which are used daily when there are no events
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I wonder how cost-effective doing that would be and also what the damage potential to the street would be? I realize those are callous things to talk about when you're talking about protecting people's lives, but unfortunately American cities run on whether or not people think their taxpayer dollars are being spent properly.
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Caltrops
If you're really determined to plow into a crowd of people, you'll do it on the rims.
I mean, not as many though, and could possibly disable the car. Minimal damage to infrastructure, easy to clean up, doesn’t really affect pedestrians. Spike strips are used to disable cars all the time in car chases. And have you ever tried to drive on a rim, let alone four of them? Control and speed will not be your greatest strengths, less likely to still be at large after the crime. Better than nothing, evidently.
I don't know that control or speed are really big concerns when barreling toward a large crowd of people. And good luck getting a huge crowd of drunk partiers to stop spilling over toward the caltrops.
Lack of speed and control would hinder any plans they may have had, may have made a mistake, may have been taken into custody. It’s not perfect. But neither was the system they were using to secure the street.
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“We have information to a certain degree of the demographics of those who are in the hospital right now,” New Orleans Police Superintendent Anne Kirkpatrick said in a news briefing Wednesday morning. “We do not know at this point how many could be tourists versus locals, but from the information I have right now, it seems the majority are locals.”
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-mass-casualty-bourbon-street-01-01-24-hnk/index.html
Also, there's this bullshit:
“We do know that the city of New Orleans was impacted by a terrorist attack,” Cantrell said, noting the incident is still under investigation.
Shortly later, an FBI agent told reporters, “This is not a terrorist event.” It was not immediately clear why the mayor and the FBI had differing information.
I can guess ~~white~~ why.
How is this not terrorism, while killing a single CEO is? The term is applied entirely arbitrarily.
Note the difference in law between US and New York state.
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From The Guardian, which is doing live updates:
More details of what happened in Bourbon Street are beginning to emerge.
According to reports on the ground from US network CBS, the white truck crashed into the victims at high speed while they were celebrating the New Year.
The driver, according to witnesses who spoke to CBS, then got out and began firing a weapon. Police then returned fire.
What a nightmare.
Just added:
Alethea Duncan, an assistant special agent in charge of the FBI’s New Orleans field office, said officials were investigating the discovery of at least one suspected improvised explosive device at the scene.
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Last thing I'd want to do is anger a NOLA cop.
Holy ctap. Two cops shot, bomb found in the quarter. Hell of a deal.
The Hotels around Bourbon street have locked their doors, allowing no one in or out.
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What are the odds this murderer is a big fan of Elon Musk like the guy in Germany?
Also:
adding the driver had not been taken into custody.
What does this mean? They're at large? They were found not at fault and were let go? The cops told them, "get out of here, you scamp!" What?
Subheading:
The driver remained at large after the Bourbon Street incident, police said.
Well damn it, I read the whole article but the subheading.
lol, it happens to the best of us.
It means either they haven't been found or there's nobody looking.
My take from the article is that they lack manpower, so I'm leaning towards the latter.
According to some of the news I just saw, they said the driver is dead.
WWLTV (local New Orleans TV station) just said they had multiple confirmations that he is dead. They also said all French Quarter hotels are under lockdown, so no beignets this morning, tourists. Sorry.
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