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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have been using the same web browser, in terms of ideology, codebase and heritage, since the release of NCSA Mosaic.

That was 32 years ago. And holy f**ck, that dates me.

Sure, I dabbled around with others. There was the original Opera, back when Netscape cratered and the only other real option was IE. Opera’s tab behaviours made me install Tab Mix Plus for FF, and I still find that extension to be the second-most critically important extension FF has, right after UBlock Origin.

And lately I took a shine to Vivaldi, but I have been weaning myself off of it once I realized that the Manifest v2 shutdown was unavoidable for it as well.

And the only reason why I even have Chromium is as a sandbox for any Google services I access and as a “naked” web browser for those websites who implement malware and spyware in the name of “website security”. Which, of course, also means a majority of websites that are “protected” by CloudFlare’s incredibly hostile anti-user practices.

And of course, I also run forks, such as Librewolf and others, also with the appropriate anti-malware and anti-spyware add-ins. It can be useful having multiple web browsers up at once.

But my main will always be Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know you fucked up when even a traditionally hardcore Mozilla fan since the early 2000s like myself has had enuff and recently switched to Librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm with you. I was using Netscape way back and loved Firefox from its inception, and tried to convince everyone I knew to use it. Earlier this year I finally switched to Waterfox, and I haven't looked back. I tried Librewolf first, and it was great, but they don't have an app and that was a dealbreaker for me. Waterfox feels a lot like older Firefox UI-wise, and I love the tab containers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Librewolf has tab containers as well. So does Firefox. Unless Waterfox works differently somehow?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh... so they do. I guess Waterfox just enabled it by default and I never noticed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Haha, that's ok. I had the same thing with my claim about pw manager in Librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yes! A bit annoying with no built in pw manager but I manage. It did show me how much of the problems which I thought were Gecko related were actually Firefox related, tho.

Basically it's a faster, bluer, and less buggy Firefox. 🐺>🦊

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should use a third party password manager. You can still add extensions to librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know. Been a bit paralysed by the amount to choose from, tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

I chose Bitwarden, no regrets so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wdym Librewolf has no built in password manager? It has about:logins just like Firefox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess it does. I heard it didn't before switching, and it isn't enabled by the default so I just assumed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

it's enabled, what isn't is offering to save your passwords

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