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College student put on academic probation for using Grammarly: ‘AI violation’::Marley Stevens, a junior at the University of North Georgia, says she was wrongly accused of cheating.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

God damnit Kevin quit trying to extort the sexy college girls

[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago

So the teacher uses an unreliable AI tool to do his job, to teach a student a lesson about allegedly using an AI tool to do her work, and the only evidence he has is "this proprietary block box language model says you plagiarized this assignment". No actual plagerism to cite, just a computer generated response arbitrarily making accusations. What's the lesson here? AI models are so unreliable, when we use them we punish you for things you didn't do, so don't you dare use them for schoolwork?

It has a 1% false positive rate. If you have students turn in 20 assignments each semester, 1 in 5 students will get disciplined for plagiarism they didn't commit. All because a teacher was too lazy to do his job without blindly accepting the results of an AI tool, while pretending that they are against such things as a matter of academic integrity...

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not shocked that this comes from TurnItIn. Has always been a garbage service in my experience. Only useful for flagging quotes, citations, class/insturctor names, and my own name as plagiarism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I saw it flagging "the [...]. I am [...]" it didn't even care about the words in between, just decided to highlight the most common words in English in that one paragraph out of spite I guess.

It also once flagged my page numbering lmao, like I'm sorry I didn't know I had to come up with a new and exciting numeric system for every essay I submit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Don't forget the table of contents and page headings like "analysis" or "recommendations".

Garbage software.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here where I live using AI detection tools is not allowed because they are not 100% correct, which means they might flag an innocent student.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

"It is better that one hundred innocent college students fail a class than that one guilty college student write a paper with AI." - Benjamin Academic

[–] [email protected] 100 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A professor once accused me of cheating because he mixed up my project with another students, marked that students project twice, and assumed i copied them.... Acedemia is not always the place of enlightenment people imagine....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Academia is not always the place of enlightenment people imagine....

Was it ever?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

Yes but it's been quite a while since it was. Now it's a heinous cash grab that puts young people, that don't understand basic finance, into lifelong debt. Long ago a tool like this would've probably been adopted by academia as a tool you need to learn to leverage on order to get to a better, more thorough, understanding of a subject. We've capitalismed education and it's hurting everyone.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Something my instructors could never explain to me is what Turnitin does with the content of papers after they're scanned. How long are they kept? Are they used for verifying anyone else's work? I didn't consent to any of that. When someone runs for office 20 years later are they going to leak old papers? Are they selling that data to other AI trainers? That's some fucking bullshit. It needs to be out of the classroom for more reasons than just false positives.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago

It gets added to their database forever as far as I know. Unsure if they're selling it but based on the trajectory of capitalism yes they're selling the fuck out of to anyone who will buy.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember seeing some fine print when signing agreements for my college that any papers I write are intellectual property of the school. I'm guessing that's standard nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

College: You will pay is 30k a year and all your base belong to us!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago

I remember when grammar and spellcheck tools became available, it was hilarious running well-known texts through them and accepting all the changes.

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