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Starting a career has increasingly felt like a right of passage for Gen Z and Millennial workers struggling to adapt to the working week and stand out to their new bosses.

But it looks like those bosses aren’t doing much in return to help their young staffers adjust to corporate life, and it could be having major effects on their company’s output.

Research by the London School of Economics and Protiviti found that friction in the workplace was causing a worrying productivity chasm between bosses and their employees, and it was by far the worst for Gen Z and Millennial workers.

The survey of nearly 1,500 U.K. and U.S. office workers found that a quarter of employees self-reported low productivity in the workplace. More than a third of Gen Z employees reported low productivity, while 30% of Millennials described themselves as unproductive.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Most of my career is showing how we could solve problems, being told not to because the morons above me don't comprehend abstract, being thrown under the bus, finding ways to do what is needed anyways, and only after the fact, after proof is shown that it was the correct thing to do, getting some meager acknowledgement that perhaps I was right amd know what I'm doing.

But it still never causes these idiots to actually trust me the next time. It doesn't seem to matter who is above me. If they are even slightly older than me, they don't ever trust people like me.

I see this same thing happen to a lot of my peers my age and younger as well. The high quality individuals suffer because the world is full of idiotic managers.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quite probably managers have ended up where to they are at due to the Peter Principle:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

They might have been great at their jobs at some point, and kept getting promoted until they couldn't succeed any more.

This principle helps explain why any hierarchy will eventually be shit.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

Call me crazy but the fact that no matter how hard a millennial or gen z person works: they still lack job security, most of their wages go in bills/rent, they often act as a carer in some capacity, and are generally not doing work related to their studies might also have something to do with it...

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've been laid off 5 times since I started what was my career over a decade ago. After the second time I learned to always keep a second or third source of income, which meant I never had a day off or a vacation for years. After the 4th time I gave up on corporate jobs but still took a position when a friend offered it to me. This time I will not go back, thankfully my side work of being a handy person landed me a job in the solar industry somehow and the pay is even better than my senior position at the last "career" job.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cool. What are you doing in solar?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

Research by economists should not be trusted in matters of employee well-being.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think these last few years of geriatric rule is just going to be a lesson of what not to do for when we take control.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By the time these fucking boomers retire we'll be geriatric too :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But with the lessons learned from a lifetime of hardship, perhaps we stand a chance of not continuing the cycle. We lived the struggle, the grind, the hustle. It's just up to us to not inflict it in turn.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

"We'll be different" - Every generation ever.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A good sign that this is what's gonna happen is if you look around our generation is the first generation that is trying to work with the next ones to do better which has never been the case before. There is a reason millennials and gen Z are always in the headlines together.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What I mean is that by the time it's our turn to lead the best decision will be that we're too old and we should let zoomers run the show lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

If they promise with their actions to stay woke, tolerant to all but the intolerant and respecting towards the planet i don't care who rules the world.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

It will never be "our" turn to lead. Power isn't based on age, it's based on wealth.

The next generation of billionaires is no different from the last.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The survey of nearly 1,500 U.K. and U.S. office workers found that a quarter of employees self-reported low productivity in the workplace. More than a third of Gen Z employees reported low productivity, while 30% of Millennials described themselves as unproductive.

Couldn't this just mean gen x/boomers feel more productive? Doesn't sound like it really speaks to the output of the employees

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Definitely.

I suspect many genx/boomers don't feel productive either - BS jobs don't discriminate - but they have probably seen enough layoffs to know when they need to appear busy - when a reporter asks is one of those times...

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