My doubt about electric vehicles is based on my doubt that the automotive industry will produce a quality product at a reasonable price. They're no different than any other short-term profit based business.
this post was submitted on 22 Feb 2024
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My doubt is based on the fact that public transportation and bicycle infrastructure is the obvious better and more environmentally economical solution for the majority of the population that lives in cities.
I say this as a gear head, do we really want people on the roads that don't want to be driving? It should be a choice, not a requirement. Plus, driving in cities sucks.
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I agree. They seem to put everything in the cars and sell them as luxury EVs. Give me a basic car for $15k.
I'm really optimistic about electric vehicles, I don't know what you're talking about. LOL.
Are you still optimistic after looking at the price of a Mercedes EV?
Mercedes has never been affordable, regardless of ICE or electric. It's a car for the upper-middle class who want to pretend to be rich
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I never buy new so I don't personally care. There will be a guy selling it on Craigslist in a few years and I will buy it from him. Thus my optimism.
Where are you going to buy your replacement battery?
Where are you going to buy your replacement gasoline engine and transmission? The previous owner decided that oil change intervals were more of a guideline anyway. One big win in buying a used EV is that maintenance is minimal, so there's less worry about how the previous owner treated the car.
I promise replacing your drivetrain at 200k is going to cost more than a battery pack.
I can get an aftermarket LiFePo battery replacement for my prius for 1/10th the cost of an OEM. It's just a bunch of laptop batteries in a box, it really doesn't have to be super expensive. As adoption grows aftermarket battery replacements will plummet in price.
Oh well, I changed a few years back transmission for my bmw. I bought a rebuilt one which cost 1000 euros and the shop asked 1000 euros for the work. I think there arent really prices put yet for example MB batteries as theyre still under warranty? But I'd take a guess that battery pack would be a bit more expensive.
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Temu? Seriously not a big issue for me personally. I literally did battery vehicle integrations for about 10 years. But yeah, others are going to need more battery techs or integrators etc. today's mechanics will need to stretch again from ICE experts to battery integration experts. My guess is that it will be a good 10 years of tech transition. Meantime the political assholes with their worthless shit filled skulls will need cow prodding to get them to require battery standardization. So long as the size of the battery can come in predictable modules, then car makers can design around that and the dream of interchangeable battery systems could be realized...like it could be a standard voltage and amperage with variable capacity but constant volume/shape, connectors, interface signals etc. When all those dominoes fall in place it will be like when cars started to look similar... R13 tires for example with standard lug locations can be used in many different cars from many makers and many model years. I hope it goes eventually happens. Then also recyclability needs plenty of work. The current batteries are not that bad. They are mostly carbon after all.
Honestly curious as to why this got downvoted?
Edit: Typo ("Damn you voice to text!" /shakesfistinair)
How about you make one that doesn’t cost 30k more than a normal car… gees.
You make an excellent point!
I expect electric will soon be much cheaper than gas cars. Battery prices are still falling, despite the demand outpacing supply. Lithium refineries and mines are in the works and should be online in 5 years.
More importantly, electric cars are much simpler than gas cars. Anyone saying otherwise has no appreciation for the genius behind modern motors, transmissions, traction control and exhaust systems. There are an order of magnitude the number of moving parts in a combustion engine than an electric motor.
The price is higher because of the still-young supply chain for batteries and the infantile production lines for EVs.
It will become a subscription business with EULA.
It should really replace this petrol powered junk but this is what ultimately happens with such suits in charge. Do you think people will choose better? How many Fairphones or Linux desktops have you seen in real life? They choose slavery.
Speaking of slavery, China does make better cars with great price. I just wonder how many gigabyte per month these cars send to China? So it's either future Mercedes car with Apple carOS coming with subscription or Chinese spycar. Make your choice.
Or choose community/cycle transport, something better fit to 2024.
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Their EV is about $8k more than a similar MB ICE SUV. Seems to be they just want to keep making easy money off innovating pay walls for remote start.
More market share for Volkswagen I guess. I just wish I knew which VW stocks to purchase, there are so many...