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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I find it difficult to choose a motherboard because they all look shady. aSUS should be criticized for creating a bad app and installing it without consent but I feel like this could have been any other motherboard manufacture.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

An unsolicited Christmas card through a letterbox would have at least been less worrying.

[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

It is a part of the ASUS Armoury Crate software that is pre-installed on some ASUS PCs.

Always flash new OS if you buy a computer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Which distro do you recommend?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Linux Mint or de-snapped Kubuntu.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

That won’t get rid of it unless you also manually go into the BIOS and disable the install ASUS Armoury Crate setting as explained in the article.

If you don’t do this it will automatically reinstall even on a fresh install of Windows. Some of these bloatware programs will even install without an internet connection! This absolutely ludicrously stupid feature is called WPBT and is used by lots of manufacturers. Luckily it doesn’t work on Linux (at least for now…).

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's wild that it's a BIOS setting. Just an extra level of fuck you.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

How was this even approved for deployment?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Haha, how fortuitous for me that my new SDD arrived over the weekend and I used the opportunity to install Linux on my Asus laptop.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Windows is malware

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, when I saw that shit I had a mini heart attack. Opened up process explorer to identify what was running. Found it was Asus and basically said "huh, how are you still here - delete"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you don't disable it in the BIOS it will just come back on next boot.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Asus hacker: I'm in

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

yes it is malware

[–] [email protected] 372 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When you turn on your PC and notice that there’s a huge Christmas banner on your desktop, do not panic – your device is not compromised.

Hah, well a vendor just pushed unapproved executable to the device and ran it without consent. Under any definition or other context it's definitely compromised.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Welp, seems ASUS motherboards also push this by default: https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation

During testing for our Intel Core i9-9900K review we found out that new ASUS Z390 motherboards automatically install software and drivers to your Windows 10 System, without the need for network access, and without any user knowledge or confirmation. This process happens in complete network-isolation (i.e. the machine has no Internet or LAN access).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Holy shit. I got Logitech peripherals, and an ASUS motherboard. I'm glad I'm on Linux. I still have Windows installed, and booted into it around 2 weeks ago, after it having lied dormant for four months. I didn't notice anything being installed, but maybe I had to reboot first.

Quite possibly, my peripherals and motherboard are all too old to have this anti-feature. Do you know if there is a list of which of their hardware this is the case for?

Damnit, I always preferred Logitech mice. I guess I might have bought my last one.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does it do with Linux?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The ASUS UEFI firmware exposes an ACPI table to Windows 10, called "WPBT" or "Windows Platform Binary Table". WPBT is used in the pre-built OEM industry, and is referred to as "the Vendor's Rootkit." Put simply, it is a script that makes Windows copy data from the BIOS to the System32 folder on the machine and execute it during Windows startup - every single time the system is booted.

So, sounds like a Windows-specific ~~vulnerability~~ feature.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 2 days ago (27 children)

This is why I boycott Logitech, they started pushing the Logitech Download Assistant through Windows Update as soon as you connect a Logitech mouse/keyboard.

It autoruns not only when it is first installed but on every startup.

It is rather annoying to try and uninstall it, I don't get why there has been so little backlash against this....

Microsoft permitting this is devaluing Windows Update, the driver (.inf) should be installed automatically, any executable file that WU wants to download and run on your computer should just bring up a small Windows notification saying something like this:

The device you just installed requests to download and run the following program from Windows Update:

Logitech Download Assistant

Will you approve or reject this request? Approve/Reject

It is just terrible that this is permitted

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

It sucks because I've always liked Logitech hardware. Though I suppose you don't need to run the software suite (or if you're on Linux it isn't an option anyway).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never knew about this (using Linux) but when I plugged my mouse onto a friend's laptop and suddenly a big banner animated onscreen, my heart sank lol. No idea how this works but it was pretty unexpected.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Make no mistake, they will backpedal and apologize, but this was a flex. They want the public to know that their machines are fucking pwnt from top to bottom and they shouldn’t try any funny shit.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You just cant make this shit up. Truly is year of the linux desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

I don't use Linux much, and I still agree. If the market share for Linux continues to rise every year, then it's absolutely true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There must have been at least one crappy one though, statistically speaking

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Glad I'm running linux on my asus computer, but I'm gonna re-check my bios for any bullshit like this.

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