The guy who is so addicted with twitter engagement boostingbhis ego he bought it for himself just to go full fascist. Is calling homeless people addicts lol.
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pretty sure you can't end homelessness with $20b unless we're talking about absolute homelessness or something..
That could be the cost to house people who are otherwise unhoused, aka “homeless”
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The word “homeless” (without a home) literally as descriptive and neutral as possible. Elon Musk: Propaganda
Elmo Husk. A puppet and a shell of a man.
I was homeless for 6 years because billionaires fucked with America's housing market. I'm not even American.
I was 15 years old when that happened. My teenage years got robbed by billionaires.
Fuck Elon, but also there's absolutely zero chance you can solve homelessness with $20b unless you're just building tent cities with no other resources available there.
That assumtion is an annual cost. Although doing it for one year only would still probably reduce the homeless numbers considerably.
https://www.sciotoanalysis.com/news/2024/1/16/what-would-it-cost-to-end-homelessness-in-america
20 billion could house and feed our entire homeless population for twenty years. While that would not solve the problem, it would drastically improve their lives.
I don't really believe that. It cost us $10 billion just to provide free lunches to kids for a year during covid. I think we should spend that every year. But the cost of housing is much higher unless you're planning housing with no HVAC or energy costs. Even if that number were theoretically real, it clearly isn't accounting for inflation, or the potential increase in homeless population when they start providing free housing.
You don't have to believe it, good lord!
650,000 homeless people times one thousand in rent for twenty years.
650000 x $1,000 x 20 years = $13 billion. That leaves enough left over to also feed them for 20 years as well
Do you believe it now!? Don't answer that, because it is clear you have a serious case of learned helplessness.
Putting aside your confusion on monthly versus annual rent, the pricing you are thinking of has baked in the assumption that the homeless are not participating. Every value is based on supply and demand, and there's no such thing as a true objective numerical value for "a month of rent". If hypothetically you have housing for a 1,000 but 1,500 people to house, then the tent is going to go up so long as 1,000 can afford what's available, and 500 would be left out.
Of course with more incentive, construction can happen, but just saying it's not that simple.
See also cost of college. Well intended measures to make financing available to everyone caused massive cost increases in universities. Any measure to try to secure these resources for everyone requires more than just throwing cash at the problem.
Yeah my math was way off.
Putting people in tents is just ridiculous. You need to get that thought far out of your mind.
No need for construction though as there are already more empty homes than homeless by a large margin.
$83.33 a month for rent?
Yeah that was not right
Wouldn't that be $1k a month minimum? Even if you could find housing at that price where most destitute people are located... that's $7.8 Billion a year.
Yeah your right. That would only pay for almost three years. Honestly though $1000 may be a bit high for a room, but perhaps not an actual house depending on the area.
Fucking dumbass. 25% of them are kids. Dude is a fucking loser.
As a broad statement it's dumb, but depending on the city addiction can be a major contribution to the cycle of "homelessness", especially the more visible populations who have reached peak "fuck it" and have no more cares for societal values or laws.. Even if 25% of them are kids, yeah some of those may be hooked on drugs at an early age or be affected by parental/guardian drug abuse.
But ok then... he's still a billionaire who could definitely spare a good portion of his wealth to improve both situations (homelessness and addiction) but would rather just leverage it to make more and more wealth while pushing policies that actually make life for the average person worse.
At the same time, homelessness and addiction are very much NOT just a throw-money-at-it problem and fucking both would require systemic change over time.
For Elon socially, how much of his wealth is liquid enough to make a difference I don't know, but I haven't really heard of him doing ANYTHING particularly altruistic with his money and Id say the changes/logistics required to make this world a better place are probably still a lot more feasible than building a colony on fucking Mars....
He bought and tanked twitter for more than that. I'd say his wealth is more than liquid enough
Bought and tanked Twitter and totally wasn't funded by people who wanted to see it dead.
Pretty sure that move made him more money than it cost him.
Facebook (and other "Meta" subsidiaries) censored, reddit censored, TikTok on the chopping block...seems like an effective way around the First Amendment, just hijack social media.
I wonder if they use drugs to cope with the mental illness they got from being forced to live on the streets?
Naw, that's pseudoscience. We all know that it's proven that poverty is a character trait that you actively choose. Not rich? Obviously you don't want it hard enough. /s
Homelessnes is not a problem you can solve with any amount of money.
Buying everyone a home wouldn't end homelessness? Weird.
Ironically, no, it wouldn't. At least not longterm. I know many people on lemmy don't want to hear that because capitalism bad or something, but it's the reality. Do you unironically think you can just give every homeless person a home and it would all magically sort itself out? Most likely not. Homes need to be maintained, which cost money.
In order to "solve" homelessness, you need to give people the ability to fix their lives themselves. It reminds me a lot of the attempts to help africa back in the early 2000s when europe would send a lot of heavy machinery to africa to help them improve farming, but they couldn't properly maintain or use the machinery because they didn't have the technical knowledge or the machinery simply wasn't suitable, so they just left them to rust or dismantled them for parts and quick money. Instead, europe moved to an approach that would enable those people to help themselves by providing better education etc.
Just giving people free housing will not work unless you also come up with a plan to maintain said housing, which costs money, which has to be paid for. If you don't have a plan like that in place, you will probably create a highly criminal slum within a couple of months, if not weeks.
I dislike musk and most stock-market-billionaires as much as most people on here, but pretending we can just take all their wealth away and the entire world would be a beautiful place where everyone can live happy and it smells like butterscotch-pie everywhere is just an extremely immature take.
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There are some people who that wouldn't help, therefore we shouldn't help anybody.
YES. Anyone reposting Kyle's daily eviscerations on Lemmy is fine by me. Kyle's consistency through my years of watching Secular Talk has always been admirable, especially in this age of soulless online grifters
Homeless folks are generally no more violent than homed folks. Drug addiction and mental illness or not.
About a year ago a homeless woman had a miscarriage in my city and a couple local media outlets jumped on it, reporting that 'police had found a dead fetus in an encampment'. Ya know, after she called 911 because she had a miscarriage. Really helped solidify my belief that a lot of people would rather just stigmatize them than do anything else