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I'd sincerely recommend everyone to read his manifesto and think about it a little bit.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago

Usual reminder that everything pigs say is false until proven otherwise

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago

to be clear on the “3d printed guns explode after 3 shots” thing.

It depends. If it’s 100% 3d printed parts, including bolt/slide and barrel, then yah, a few shots is the most you’d get out of it.

But most “3d printed guns” are using off the shelf barrels and bolts/slides, parts that are usually not registered and tracked. The parts that are register and tracked are usually the parts that hold trigger assemblies and grips, things that can be made of plastic since they’re not directly handling the stress of firing.

So the fact that the gun (the suspect was arrested with) is intact doesn’t mean it was never used. It also doesn’t mean it was definitely the gun used.

The situation still seems weird, but, we’ll see what the different parties have to say on the matter when they go to trial.

[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Important to note: 3D PRINTED FIREARMS DO NOT BREAK WITH A FEW USES

Firsthand knowledge.

200-250 rounds and still going strong, inspected before and after firing every time

No damage so far.

Beyond that point, I agree with everything posted.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Based O’Brien would engineer a thousand-round 3D printed gun while the federation’s ATF just weeps in a corner

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It seems like he wanted to get caught. Am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What I learned from the show "Interior Chinatown" is that they always get their man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Has Interior Chinatown actually started? I loved the book. - A former aspiring kung fu guy

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

somehow the cops just know from grainy 140p footage

was miraculously not shattered into pieces, which happens to all other 3d printed guns.

the very well-built gun has a particular reload quirk that was seen in the surveillance footage

the doubt about not disposing the gun is a fair point. i suppose he either wanted to seed doubt to the prosecution (as someone else claimed below), or just forgot to plan this part

would naturally spend a long period of time sitting in a public place

fair point, but i think he simply settled into routine. this is corroborated by him being "visibly shaken" and not−well-prepared to someone asking him about the murder

including the additional time it would take for the cops to respond and then arrive

he obviously did not know someone tipped him off

a random McDonald s worker

slight correction: a fellow customer told the worker. if the concern here is that he would hide his face to the worker, well he may have dropped his guard after going back to his seat

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

lost a couple inches in height, changed skin colour

their new yet slightly different face

tf you mean

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (9 children)

It's sad seeing a lot of people fall for conspiracy theories like this. Unable to handle the fact that Luigi wasn't a criminal mastermind but just a regular person like them, only Luigi had the balls to do something about it outside of screaming anonymously into the void.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago (9 children)

What's sad is seeing people accept the police's story at face value. You don't have to be a criminal mastermind to not be caught with everything needed to hand the case to the prosecution on a gold platter a week after you committed a crime in another state. This is either a set up, or Luigi intended to be caught.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The thing that gets me is the McDonald's employees tip. Whenever something like this happens the police are flooded with false information and bad tips, this case would have been even moreso due to the politics involved. What made them decide this random person in another state was credible? What about this tip in particular made them say "this information should be followed up on."

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most likely Parallel Construction.

Snowden revealed some of the surveillance powers of PRISM and agencies like the NSA. Local police would not have access to those kinds of technologies, but calls could be made to push the police in the right direction.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

potential explanations:

it's him and he genuinely wasn't running (as his confession suggests), whilst also being chased by the police surveillance state, so even if he was running it would take meticulous planning to truly avoid the cops.

it's him and he planned to get caught and the confession, the inconsistencies etc. are intended to make prosecuting him "without a doubt" incredibly difficult. You can bet money on his lawyer knowing a lot of these inconsistencies too, and exploiting them in court.

it's him but he's trying to obscure his motives etc. for [reason]. (unlikely)

it isn't him but a lookalike who's being framed for it because of [conspiracy theory]. (unlikely)

it isn't him but a lookalike who framed themselves for [reason]. (unlikely)

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It could also be not be him, and some deal was made with a lookalike to close the case quickly, or to avoid giving the adjuster a platform to tell his story

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don’t forget his confession said how much he respects the feds and the hard work they do

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (7 children)

“I love the taste of glowie boot and will fellate some leather to completion when you come knocking, but first, crimes”

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which was 3 pages long and 2 paragraphs...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

what else are you gonna scrawl hastily? luigi was just a regular upperclassman but with actual gall. opportunity doesn't wait for you to compose a manifesto

[–] [email protected] 154 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A minor correction, 3D printed guns are fairly reliable nowadays when made in a way such that all pressure bearing parts are made with metal/factory made regular parts

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it was also clarified that the gun was a Glock with 3d printed lower, which is basically a normal Glock with different plastic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (6 children)

sauce? i'm seeing that he just got a purely-~~ghost~~(edit: homemade) gun

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah was gonna comment this. There are totally functional 9mm machine pistols with everything made from printed and standard hardware store parts.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

some rifles too, saw a YouTube video of one and it was pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah chiming in here to agree, 3D printed guns are now nearly identical in performance to other polymer based guns (like Glocks for instance).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

they don't degrade after being fired?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

All guns degrade after being fired, but modern production firearms are just plastic wrapped around metal tubes. 3D printed guns have always worked on the same principle but it takes time to develop them to the same safety standards.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not if they're made correctly, with good materials like nylon-cf, correct print settings, and good post processing. It's a process that takes a day or two and requires a small amount knowledge and skill.

A handgun made like that will function for thousands of rounds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

thanks, I had no idea.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

my man Luigi's taking the fall for the real hero, is there nothing this handsome , suffering soul won't do for good?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Peg me 😭

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Nothing ever happens and everything is a conspiracy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, everybody does stupid things, and he may have wanted to get caught...

But the entire story is incredibly weird. It looks like those official explanations that say "well, he shot himself on the head and 20 minutes later shot his wife; that's absolutely the case!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I think it's much more likely that he either wanted to be caught, or it could just be that the guy that did something ill advised (killing someone in public while making very little effort to hide his face besides a cloth mask that he pulled down on several occasions) didn't really have much in the way of a contingency plan.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean they're taking a few liberties there to.my.knowledge but thats close to the official story and it is contusionesque. Unless Luigi wanted to get caught after letting all CEOs cook for a few days.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Which I think would make sense if he wanted to send a message. For example: he lays low and check press coverage to see if they report on it the way he wants. If he doesn’t get the reaction he’s looking for then he can turn himself in and get another chance to speak to the public more directly.

I can see some logic to it.

His goal wasn’t to get away with murder, his goal was to highlight the system in a way that couldn’t be ignored.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Like self-immolation, but burn the person who's actually responsible for the problem.

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