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[–] [email protected] 131 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I reported a server where the users harassed, both online and offline, a trans woman who later killed herself. Then they made memes about her death. Discords 'safety team' suggested I talk to the server admin (who was part of the abuse) and closed the ticket.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago

They only understand when lawyers talk to them.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)

If anyone is looking for an alternative to discord, please check out revolt.chat The interface and user experience is the closest I've seen to discord (miles better than any Matrix client), has functioning voice chat (being rebuilt for more stability) custom server roles, and a functioning youtube music bot called Remix. They're doing awesome work over there!

Edit: Forgot to mention that it's also open-source and self-hostable (although not federated)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I did try it, but it was missing video streaming last I checked. Also, they made self hosting without docker incredibly difficult.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

New apps should be Docker compatible out of the box, change my mind.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

An app that expects to be widely distributed and used but is Docker exclusive failed before even starting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

First of all, I said "compatible", not "exclusive". Second of all, why would it fail? Even if there was no tutorial how to run it directly on a system, a docker image carries all the information you need to run it on a given system. That's why we have Dockerfiles.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Jumping from one proprietary system to another isn't really an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Ventrillo and Teamspeak as well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least you have control over your data and you and your friends can blame you for server crashes lol.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I didn't realize it was possible to host your own backend locally... I thought it was just hosting the webUI locally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nah, I remember the FMHY crowd keeping their own instance up

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yep, you can host it all yourself. Both UI and the server. Not sure how backwards compatible the "public" client is - I remember Rocket.chat Android client breaking by not updating the server on at least 2 occasions over the past 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

what the fuck was wrong with IRC

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

No voice chat, mainly. I don't want to play League and chat on IRC lol.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why would a company like discord even attempt to take action against coordinated attacks against anything they see as a threat? That'd only be shooting them in the foot because then people would have the most minute expectation of them doing anything good.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Because some of these actions might qualify as criminal offenses and if Discord had knowledge about it or even supported it, they'd be complicit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is also discord guilds for sharing cheats, which is very damaging to the massive fps games industry. If discord would be complicit why doesn’t valve or riot sue them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is also discord guilds for sharing cheats, which is very damaging to the massive fps games industry

Using systems built into the game is damaging to the industry?

Or do you mean cracks/hacks? Because if it's a cheat, that's something the devs explicitly added.

And looking at Nintendo vs the R4, these companies do take down sites discussing/sharing hacks and cracks. Just not as publicly as you might expect it to happen because why would they, it's just a lawyer sending a very formal letter asking for them to either take it down, or their company will be taken down in court.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I’m talking about aimbots and wallhacks for online FPS games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzIq04vd0M

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I really hope this blows up in their face if true.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 8 months ago

That sounds like Discord alright.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“I would estimate that the entire fediverse is developed off of the backs of maybe, at best, 100 engineers,” she said. “All of whom are either low paid, underpaid, or unpaid, who are trying to build software, and at the same time, are supporting the userbase of monthly active users in the range of 1.1 million to 7.4 million.”

Transcription-Kevin Durant meme, "LIKE 100 PEOPLE:"..."Y'ALL THE REAL MVPS"

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Costly? They were pretty pathetic spam attempts that are still ongoing.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Ingress and egress costs are real and those assholes attached images to their spam. Hundreds of posts coming in at 700kb a pop does damage if you're relying on a cloud provider to store your shit. Then, it gets accessed by all your users.

Billing alarms go bing bing bing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Ingress is typically free, but yes

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I’m running a Lemmy instance maybe we missed out on the bulk of it but it’s been pretty sad over here as far as being able to call it an attack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

From the article they said smaller unattended instances were the primary target. So you might not have been one of the instances targeted, and if you don't have open registration and/or have captcha on then it wouldn't be an issue either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The spam was still an issue period. It hit every instance regardless of what you’re saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ok so was it an issue or not? You seem to be saying both

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

It was a minor inconvenience. Pathetic. You’re speaking from a point of view of not understanding that we’re all connected.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you have open registration? If not, you probably benefitted from other mods work on this one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I definitely have benefited as fellow admins were on top of it to the point of automated removal. That’s one of the main reasons this spam attempt is pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yup, I'm thankful for their work as well.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

I saw a few instances had large bills from their CDNs because some spammers uploaded many attachments. I don't think this is from the current wave of spam about the Japanese discord server though

[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago

discord tries to be a good company challenge (impossible) (deleted in 24h)

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