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Summary

Mass graves uncovered in Syria after Bashar al-Assad’s overthrow reveal evidence of systematic atrocities, with over 100,000 people tortured and killed in what a top war crimes prosecutor described as the worst abuses “since the Nazis.”

Assad’s regime operated a “machinery of death,” involving mass disappearances, torture, and secret burials.

Rebel forces freed thousands of political prisoners, but many remain missing.

International efforts aim to document war crimes, though Assad, now in Russia, is unlikely to face trial.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 102 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (23 children)

Really? Nothing else since WWII has been this bad? I can think of three off the top of my head! Syria's neighbor is doing a holocaust right now. It's like they're pretending that nothing bad has happened since the Nazis were defeated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Israel hasn't killed over 100,000 yet. Gaza is a lot smaller than Syria or Europe.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's going to take some time (and digging) to find out.

However... events that unfolded in Cambodia will almost certainly have exceeded what is going to be discovered in Syria.

Most likely the same can be said about things that happened in Indonesia.

Events that continue to happen in North Korea may possibly exceed - once the place collapses and access becomes possible - which may take a century - what Bashar and his father managed to organize.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes, nothing.

No one here is claiming what Israel is doing isn't horrible (hell, you're the only one bringing it up). But, this is worse. Wild how there can be more than one bad thing and one being worse doesn't make the other one not bad, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Don't argue with a .ml user when they move the goalposts to be "America bad" without any context. It's a losing battle.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I agree with your point but I think the Palestinian genocide is a bad example. Imo better examples from the top of my mind: the Rwandan and Cambodian genocides likely were far worse both in absolute numbers and as a % of the population, and the policies of Maoist China got many more people killed.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Palestinian genocide is happening right now, is my point. We don't have to crawl through history to find atrocities.

Indonesia after the CIA coup is another good example, or Iraq when we killed over a million people. This stuff is way more recent than WWII.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

And the Palestinian genocide and your other examples aren't "worse" in any metric (yet). The use and misrepresentation of those examples just tells us that you're a tankie who engages in whataboutism and spreads untruths to build a narrative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Bad year for tankies

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Man, Mao's policies got so many people killed that "only" 3-4m people died of famine.

He's got an incredible kill count.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Stalin all ready had a high kill count before the Nazis started their extermination camps.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How "whatabout" that.

Stop trying to shove this news under the carpet with your "I know worse but I won't tell you!!1!"

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm trying to point out that history didn't start and end in WWII, and pointing to something just as bad happening right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I didn't see that you're an "ml"

Whatever works in your fantasy world and makes you happy 🤷🏼‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You mean the country that is claiming Syrian sovereign space like the Golan Heights for their illegal settlements since the 90s?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And currently stealing even more land!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

Well, now Syria is weakened from the revolution. That is the best time to go and steal some land!

[–] [email protected] 96 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are 100.000 bodies in a single mass grave. And that is just one out of five. That's kinda in a league of its own.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Russians never stopped doing such things. Before, during and after WW2.

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