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The Democrats are going to lose the next election by not learning anything from the 2024 election. This will only get worse until we take back control of the party or start our own party and split the vote guaranteeing the republicans win the next midterm and presidential election.
The Democrats are going to lose the next election by not learning anything from the 2024 election.
Which they lost by not learning anything from the 2016 election.
My current opinion is not that schisming from the DNC would be a winning move, but if we do it should definitely happen now rather than later.
If the progressives all leave the dems are screwed.
I don't see how that addresses the point.
I think they are alluding to if we split off it ensures the Democrats don't win, thus they would actually have to do something to earn our vote.
Now that is a failing strategy.
If they dont, then everyone keeps getting screwed.
Did anyone think she would actually get it? I don't think AOC herself thought she would. She even went on the View and called Pelosi "mama bear" 🤮
I don’t think AOC herself thought she would.
Because she knew the remaining boomers (or is Pelosi fucking Silent Generation at that?) would do everything they could to keep anyone with modern views and no great-grandchildren out of that seat.
She's trying to play the game. She tried bucking them for the first couple years of her tenure in that seat. And they locked her out of everything. Pelosi lead the charge in that. AOC has been trying to ingratiate herself to that bitch but it has not helped because Pelosi is fucking cancer to the Democratic party. She sucks up all the oxygen in the room and gives literally nothing back. The reason Obamacare started out as such a god-awful mess is because pelosi refused to even consider a public option. And now it's truly completely humped because the Democrats basically gave the Presidency, the House, and the Senate to the Republicans.
The only answer is chemotherapy. Meaning we need to kill most of the party by voting progressive independent instead of towing the party line. Because clearly they don't give a shit.
What a shit take. If you wanna get away with just making shit up like that then you should just go on right wing talk shows and pretend to be a pundit. They’ll love you
It's been almost 10 years since Bernie was screwed out of the primary.
If progressives give a shit about actually fixing this country they will not be allowed to do that from within the Democratic party.
We need a third party, and if progressives aren't interested in splitting then they are complicate in the status quo
Pelosi refused to even consider a public option
Nope. Version 1 of the ACA from the Pelosi House: https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/3962/summary/00
This is the 2nd time I've come across someone lying specifically about this in the past day. Not sure if Zoomer hyperbole or Vlad.
First off. That's not how bills work. You don't introduce one and have it fail and that's the "first draft". Secondly this bill didn't fail. It passed and it has become law. Thirdly this is a simple Medicaid and Medicare expansion bill. It did not create a public option for people. It just made Medicaid and Medicare available for a few more people than it previously did. You should actually read the stuff you link to.
Here is the actual Affordable Care Act with its "first draft" AKA the introduction.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/3590
And finally I'm Gen X not a Zoomer. I was there when they wrote this shit, I was there when they were debating it and paying very close attention. And I watched Nancy Pelosi go on television and tell everyone that a public option was not on the table because they wanted "bipartisan support" and Republicans wouldn't support it with a public option attached. (Biden echoed this later while running for president) This, even though at that time they owned both the House and the Senate and the Presidency. And they were still trying to play nice with the goddamn Republicans. They were "afraid of a filibuster". And they didn't have the spine necessary to do away with the 2/3 majority overrule. Which, BTW, the Republicans have no scruples about doing.
He's arguing in favour of letting Republicans win every election from now on, so my money's on Vlad, with a sidebet on single-digit IQ.
Split, fight, go to war, destroy half of the shitty parts of our party and come back as a unionist party of the fucking people and I might not consider a blue tie a fucking joke the next time I see one.
Clean house, and by clean house, fire yourselves outside of the firebrands and let them take us up to 11.
Pelosi stole that seat
Old white men gonna old white men.
Pelosi too
I believe at this point she's a honorary white old man
The ol battle axe was in hospital recovering from hip replacement surgery, but Pelosi still has the heart of a true leader, and managed to get a "young 74 year old" the seat. Way to go Democrats! You fucking idiots are why we have trump part deux.
It's been far less reported but they did almost the exact same thing to Katie Porter in California. She was another rising star that got snuffed out by the DNC machine. They redistrict her seat and then they locked her out of the Senate election and pushed one of their elites in her place.
It was almost an exact repeat of what happened to Nina Turner in Ohio in 2021. Everywhere they can the Democrats lock out progressives. The Democratic party does not give one single shit. All they care about is the money and power they get as politicians. Everything they say is lip service.
And the dude has fucking throat cancer
I'm sure when he croaks in a couple months, AOC will get the seat as she was the runner-up, right?
They’ll have a 73 year old queued up
I'm not actually that surprised a vote by a bunch of politicians was decided based on politics and not which candidate was a better fit.