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    [–] [email protected] 72 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

    there is an update, i applied it at the weekend

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    Is not having an anti-virus good for most people though?

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    most antivirus apps are very invasive, heavy on resources and even spy on you. Windows defender is usually enough. However, virustotal is still recommended

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Is this something that someone who doesn't have tech as a hobby cares enough about to change they're os?

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

    I would say yes? Many if my friends in uni were using laptops that had McAfee built in. I'm not exaggerating when I say they were unusable. I removed that shit and those machines were snappy af.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Bootkitty?

    However,
    you can already patch your BIOS to become secure again! :)

    All in all, Windows security is a joke compared to Linux's.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

    bootkitty wasn't implemented ever and if you use GUID Partition Table and your bios is set to uefi without csm, it can't affect you, since Bootkitty embeds itself into the Master Boot Record and there exploits the LogoFail vulrenability (this was already patched btw) with as far as i remember, a self-extracting steganographical bitmap image for arbritary code execution to bypass Secure Boot with injecting face certifications to Moklist. Also, it only runs on select devices, far from all Linux systems are vulrenabe.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah, Linux has SELinux, that thing everyone turns off!

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Windows security is... fine? It could be better, but it's pretty much on par with linux security. Both have their vulns, but they're both also able to be secured enough that most (if not all) major data breaches are via phishing or other social engineering attacks, not solely software exploits. There's lots of fodder for the Linux vs. M$ debate, but this one is maybe a bit out of date.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    If you actually dig deeper into the Linux security topic, you'd find out that Linux is actually not very secure. GrapheneOS developers made quite a lot of posts on what Linux distros (and the kernel) are missing in terms of security. A lot of "Linux security and the lack of viruses" rides on the waves of "there is hardly any point of creating malware for a system with such a small user base, plus you have to consider the fact that people knowledgeable enough just to install a Linux distro would be a bit more careful about their computers than the average Joe".

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    there is hardly any point of creating malware for a system with such a small user base

    Actually the whole world runs on linux, Windows is mostly the low level consumer end.

    Which makes your argument true for a certain segment of malware (the cheap low tech stuff more akin to scams etc targeting people en mass but expected to have a low return), but not actually for the parts where the money is that justify elaborate malware and hacks.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    The internet runs on linux.

    (Webservers, some network equipment, monitoring servers, NAS, DNS, ... lots of services can be setup and ran for free on linux. ((Companies like free)))

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    [–] [email protected] 72 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    If you think being on Linux makes you immune for attacks, I have bad news for you.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    It probably makes you a less likely target though. I suppose that bots scan for known Widows vulnerabilities simply because that platform has a much higher market share among desktop operating systems. Besides, Linux distros offer a unified way to update all your software. On Windows, third-party software is often installed and maintained manually.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    there are much less vulrenabilities on Linux. No system is totally unpenetrable, but having 2-5 vulrebabilities is always better than having 30-40

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    I've got a link for you to click, Mr super secure OS user. I promise your OS will protect you.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Here I have a cool program to install. Just pipe this link into bash really quick...

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I mean... a form of Microsoft Defender is available for Linux, but only for enterprise customers if I remember correctly 😅

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

    Yep, my company allows me to use Linux but for Compliance Reasons I need to have Microsoft Defender installed and running. Still beats Windows 11 by a mile

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    and it will suck your servers dry.

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    People here running *nix OSes while I run a Nix*OS

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