I was not surprised how well Astro Bot did. It was accessible and well made. Sam Lake nailed it with his little speech.
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This game looked nice and was awful to play. There isnt really anything else to say.
Translation appears accurate, but misses the cultural element. In my admittedly limited experience, this is pretty par for the course for Chinese humor. Compared to Western humor, Chinese humor is more brash and abrasive, and almost boastful when viewed from an outside perspective. I can definitely envision someone receiving that sort of response as a joke ("What, you didn't receive game of the year? Why did you even go?"). And it would certainly agree with my impression that he makes a lot of crude jokes on his social media that don't translate well into English (see: the IGN article on how the developers are sexist). It can really be quite difficult for inexperienced people to determine what statements are humorous and what statements are earnest, since the difference is often really subtle, even when read in the original language.
I'm not necessarily defending him, since these sorts of jokes do have a nugget of honesty to them, but my read is that he plays them up for humor.
Yeah... fuck off with that?
I am Chinese with a lot of Chinese family. This is not some unique and elevated humor that westerners do not understand. It is the same self deprecating humor that is increasingly prevalent in all cultures (that have been exposed to similar media...) combined with the equivalent of "ha ha, wouldn't it be funny if we kissed .ha ha ha . What a joke. ha ha. But what if we did? Ha ha ha".
Same with the truly disgusting misogynistic shit that asshole has said. It is a "joke" in the same way it was "just a joke" when people were testing the water on being magats.
The only thing that is "cultural" about this is the tendency for East Asians (but especially Chinese) to assume that everyone else is fucking stupid and that they just have to say it is a joke to ignore all consequences. And... that has been regularly demonstrated to be true so I guess the joke is on us?
Do I think he was tearing his shirt in agony and screaming in pain? No (although apparently Alannah Pearce and the people in her section saw him crying when he lost...). But there is very much the fundamental truth of "I deserved to win so this must be bullshit if I didn't and I wasted my time by coming to an awards ceremony that doesn't understand how amazing I am".
Which... DOES have a lot of ties to East Asian culture (the idea that you are either best or worst) coupled with the fucked up number that the one child policy did on people.
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This should be the top comment. Knowing a couple mainland Chinese, this is probably 100% accurate and a more charitable read than most are giving it.
Aren't the game awards, just a panel of a handful of members. If so, not sure the award means much.
The Game Awards are chosen by an international jury of over 100 global media and influencer outlets
From the FAQ
Thx, aren't many of those outlets owned by same conglomerate?
There are definitely some large chunks. But there have been no signs of any of those outlets caring enough to try to vote as a bloc.
There are definitely a lot of flaws in how the jury is selected and many (most?) of the judges past and present have pointed that out. Stuff like how they are fundamentally not qualified to judge fighting games as fighting games or the mess that is the "simulation and strategy" category or whatever they call "PC games" where people are somehow comparing MS Flight Sim to Farm Simulator to Satisfactory.
But for stuff like the major awards? It is a pretty diverse crowd and there is no indication that any group cares enough to rig the vote beyond group discords where people pester other games media folk because they want to play Helldivers again and their usual crew are busy.
I'll also add on that, for its many many flaws, the keighleys is pretty good about being aware of this kind of thing based on a few outlets that talked about how they were judges in the past and then suddenly never mentioned it again after an acquisition or the loss of a core editor.
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No, I don't think so. Maybe a couple but it's a pretty wide net. Which ones did you think were?
They run the gamut from the long-standing outlets like IGN to the Patreon-funded stuff like MinnMax.
China mad Japan won in American awards. You love to see it.
This year Japan was try-harding so much
Were they? Last year they had Mario and Zelda and the year before they had Elden Ring. This year doesn't feel particularly strong.
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Machine translated comments are here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/1he81dp/game_producer_of_black_myth_wukongs_post_after_tga/
Chinese translations aren't always the best in my experience, so hard to tell what's serious vs what's said in a joking manner.
My partner has been playing BMWK, and from what I've seen it's an excellent effort for a studio known for mobile games. That being said, there's noticeably rough edges, so I'm not surprised it didn't get game of the year (whatever the decision criteria is).
Man, calling this a snub is a misnomer to begin with.
That’s how awards work lmao. 5 losers, one winner
One winner and five nominee's. Let's not downplay being in the top 6 nominations for "best game of the year" as "losing." It's an incredible achievement no matter how you look at it.
Yeah you’re right
Especially for a fresh team that's amazing.
As the article says, since his comments were run through machine translation, it's possible they're meant more in jest rather than seriously. I'll keep a charitable perspective on this until we learn more.
except we know Chinese people have been review bombing other games because BMW didn't win. Sure doesn't seem like a joke to them.
This is based on a shit article from the shitrag "TheGamer" that calls 500 players downvoting a game a movement. There's 1,4B people in China, 500 votes don't even register. TheGamer is a clickbait/ragebait shitrag that weaponises xenophobia/culture wars/ignorace to generate traffic. They are the precise example of the enshitification of the Internet. Veritable parasites.
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Since last night, I've seen a lot of strong dissatisfaction and frustration in players' comments - often expressed humorously or ironically, which made me laugh,"
Jest or not, this one statement is irresponsible because this will only serve to encourage bad and toxic behavior and you know that's how immature gamers will take it, as condoning their behavior.
The comment you responded to covered all that. It's possible it's a translation/tone error. No reason to assume face value given the stakes.
If that ends up being not the case, then ok.
No the OP did not. I'm literally saying tone does not matter and even if it was a flippant remark, gamers will take that as approval of their bullshit behavior.
Let's face it, gamers are all too often immature assholes, Westerner, Easterners, wherever.
But whatever, people disagree and that's fine.
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lol
there's an easy fix for that, don't come anymore.
That's some top tier Main Character Syndrome.