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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Y'all, with Proton enshittifying (scribe and wallet nonsense), I think I am never going to sign up for another all-in-one service like this. Now I gotta determine what to do about:

  • Proton Mail
  • Proton VPN
  • Proton Drive
  • Proton Calendar

and I'd be forced to reassess my password manager if hadn't already been using BitWarden when Proton Pass came out.

Self-hosting is a non-starter (too lazy to remember a new password for my luggage). Any thoughts? Are other Proton users here jumping ship? Should I just resign myself to using Proton until they eventually force some stupid ass "Chatbot will look at the contents of your Drive and tell you which authorities to surrender yourself to"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use Posteo for mail and calendar now (they’re not encrypted between users like Proton but you can just hook it up to any mail client and PGP your shit) .Mail is IMAPS, calendar is CalDAV, contacts are CardDAV, etc. Depending on where you fall on the security-convenience sliding scale, that might be an option. I’ve decided that I care more about portability and standards than super-thick encryption which made me choose them over Tuta, because Tuta offers no way to access the mail over IMAP whatsoever, not even an optional bridge like Proton, and that was a total dealbreaker for me. Posteo also claim they’re 100% green energy which is a nice bonus.

For drive I use Filen.io now. They’re relatively new so I can’t make any assumptions about how long they’ll be around but the price is fair and they offer lifetime payments too. Also their Linux client is pretty solid and doesn’t fucking eat my RAM for breakfast. They’re also in the process of adding support for rclone as per a GitHub issue I’m following.

VPN I pretty much don’t use because I’ve never felt I needed it, so no recommendations there from me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (7 children)

also, how are you liking bitwarden?

I really need to kill off my current password manager and bitwarden's looking like the least worst of current options (esp. when paired with something like vaultwarden instead of running a fucking nodejs sync server on the internet), but also some of it seems quite stunted[0]

it's gotten so bad that I've started pondering writing my own, because good god does basically every option out there depress me

[0] - no global hotkeys? the fuck

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

last time it came up, tuta was the least worst of the mail options. it's not the same offering as proton's in-garden encrypted, but nothing is afaik. rest of it is pretty okay (I have some (not all[0]) domains on there)

the rest of the things I don't have a direct recommendation in part because [0] and in part because I don't use computers entirely like how a lot of people do. that said

storage: backblaze storage pricing is not bad. they might have a desktop app thing? calendar: caldav is a dark art beyond my ken - I haven't even got that shit playing nice on my own things[3]. fuck knows who does this well. vpn: mullvad[1] (has quite recently had another full assessment published). maybe njalla[2]?

[0] - I'm one of those crotchety fuckers that still has a whole pile of self-hosted things that have been going 15~20y

[1] - seems okay and to have their head on straight. haven't used myself.

[2] - also haven't used it myself, comes from some of the folks of the TPB gang

[3] - admittedly I haven't tried that hard because I don't need it much, but it is extremely goddamn annoying to debug from clients

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Bluesky’s approach to using domain names to mean identity is now showing cracks that everyone can see: https://tedium.co/2024/12/17/bluesky-impersonation-risks/

(it was always shaky, but mostly only shown by infosec folks who signed up as amazon s3, etc)

TL;DR: scammer buys .com domain for journalist’s name, registers it on bluesky, demands money to hand it over or face reputational damage, uses other fake accounts with plausible names and backgrounds to encourage the mark to pay up. Fun stuff. The best bit is when the sockpuppets got one of the real people they were pretending to be banned from bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

It seems like it is a neat addition to a robust verification system, sadly they picked it as a replacement for a verification system. Ah the libertarian desire to build a thing but not be responsible for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

this is such a mess, holy shit

and only on .com? I have some very pointed questions about the maturity of the verification program/design

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

People probably asked the same question about the first Habsburgs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Oddly parodied before it happened in the tv series community (the dad of the somewhat racist main character. The dad itself is very racist).

E: I do wonder what Javier Milei looks like if he would dye his hair

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

he would continue to look like shit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The British elected a guy who wears a mop on his head. You cannot convince me that is his actual hair.

I still have occasional intrusive visions of Johnson busting into an unattended supply closet in the Palace of Westminster to steal a fresh mop head, shouting, "BLOODY LABOUR NICKED ME TOUPÉE!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's really sold the bit, hasn't he?

Yet, if you cover up his hair, he easily scans as "generic English aristocrat."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

@istewart @techtakes Spoiler: it's not his natural hairstyle, he's been caught deliberately mussing it up before going on camera. Also, his friends and family call him "Alex" (short for Alexander), not "Boris". It's all an act.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

mild guess: "golden boys, with the the 30+ years required to look Politically Evolved"? and of course the selection factors involved from even just getting to that point and the stylist/image handling that that involves

there's also an element of the system does as designed, and there's an element of self-reinforcing delivery/production of these ghouls

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

~~Brief~~ overlapping thoughts between parenting and AI nonsense, presented without editing.

The second L in LLM remains the inescapable heart of the problem. Even if you accept that the kind of "thinking" (modeling based on input and prediction of expected next input) that AI does is closely analogous to how people think, anyone who has had a kid should be able to understand the massive volume of information they take in.

Compare the information density of English text with the available data on the world you get from sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch, proprioception, and however many other senses you want to include. Then consider that language is inherently an imperfect tool used to communicate our perceptions of reality, and doesn't actually include data on reality itself. The human child is getting a fire hose of unfiltered reality, while the in-training LLM is getting a trickle of what the writers and labellers of their training data perceive and write about. But before we get just feeding a live camera and audio feed, haptic sensors, chemical tests, and whatever else into a machine learning model and seeing if it spits out a person, consider how ambiguous and impractical labelling all that data would be. At the very least I imagine the costs of doing so are actually going to work out to be less efficient than raising an actual human being and training them in the desired tasks.

Human children are also not immune to "hallucinations" in the form of spurious correlations. I would wager every toddler has at least a couple of attempts at cargo cult behavior or inexplicable fears as they try to reason a way to interact with the world based off of very little actual information about it. This feeds into both versions of the above problem, since the difference between reality and lies about reality cannot be meaningfully discerned from text alone and the limited amount of information being processed means any correction is inevitably going to be slower than explaining to a child that finding a "Happy Birthday" sticker doesn't immediately make it their (or anyone else's) birthday.

Human children are able to get human parents to put up with their nonsense ny taking advantage of being unbearably sweet and adorable. Maybe the abundance of horny chatbots and softcore porn generators is a warped fun house mirror version of the same concept. I will allow you to fill in the joke about Silicon Valley libertarians yourself.

IDK. Felt thoughtful, might try to organize it on morewrite later.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the department of not smelling at all like desperation:

On Wednesday, OpenAI launched a 1-800-CHATGPT (1-800-242-8478) telephone number that anyone in the US can call to talk to ChatGPT via voice chat for up to 15 minutes for free.

It had a very focused area of expertise, but for sincerity, you couldn't beat 1-900-MIX-A-LOT.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

FWIW I just got an email from GitHub announcing that Copilot is now free for my account (a very basic one).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Seems like everybody got that email, my account is semi-abandoned and still got it. I love the reek of desperation in the morning

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

yep I think so too. as I think I posted here a while back:

25068   + Oct 12 GitHub          ( 20K) Your free GitHub Copilot access is ending soon

and now suddenly it's Launched Again! but with limits. gotta whet those appetites just a bit more! sales will totes follow soon!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

mine showed up in spam 🤣

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

if you think about it the human mind is really just a kind of naturally arising artificial intelligence #Deep

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, considering only the relationships between words and symbols in the complete absence of context and real-world referents is a good description of how a certain brand of tech dunce thinks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

The object vs meta level.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

In other news, Character.AI has ended up in the news again for allowing school shooter chatbots to flourish on its platform.

You want my off-the-cuff take, this is definitely gonna fuck c.ai's image even further, and could potentially leave them wide open to a lawsuit.

On a wider front, this is likely gonna give AI another black eye, and push us one step further to the utter destruction of AI as a concept I predicted a couple months ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Rationalist debatelord org Rootclaim, who in early 2024 lost a $100K bet by failing to defend covid lab leak theory against a random ACX commenter, will now debate millionaire covid vaccine truther Steve Kirsch on whether covid vaccines killed more people than they saved, the loser gives up $1M.

On would assume this to be a slam dunk, but then again one would assume the people who founded an entire organization about establishing ground truths via rationalist debate would actually be good at rationally debating.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Debating post-truth weirdos for large sums of money may seem like a good business idea at first, until you realize how insufferable the debate format is (and how no one normal would judge such a thing).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Nvidia doing their part to help consumers associate AI with unwanted useless bloatware that’s foisted upon them.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/12/the-new-nvidia-app-is-probably-hurting-your-pc-gaming-performance/

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