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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

literally Canada :(

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Remember folks: China is communist in the same way that North Korea is democratic and the Nazis were socialist.

It's just a smokescreen.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Eh, there's a notional aspiration to socialism at least, which is more than can be said about the US sphere of countries.

In practice though? Yeah, China is hyper-captialist, without much of the social security present in wealthier countries.

Why Leftist get a hard-on for the former USSR, Russia and China, or frankly any country, is beyond me.

There are positive and negative outcomes in line or against socialist ideals everywhere (I think people are too black and white about China in both directions personally)

I just do not understand simping for any country, just because they are "socialist".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (51 children)

IMO this is why it takes an additional axis to define a government, not just left/right but also free/authoritarian. You can find examples of all combinations. Left wing and repressive? Cuba. Left leaning and free? Sweden. Right wing and repressive? Russia, Saudi Arabia, whatever. Right leaning and free (mostly)? USA.

Obviously, there’s a gradient within these axes, but it’s strange to see people cheering on a country that matches their preferred left or right wing ideology if they’re super repressive.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

A core tenant of socialism is a democratized workplace, being able to vote for your wage and company policy, like an Engineer choosing when to launch the rocket instead of some MBS degree.

Last time I checked I dont think factory workers in China that make all our shit can do that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

ThAt's jUst WeSTeRnn prOpaGAndA

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Yes. That was the point of what they posted. None of those groups are what they claim to be beyond nominally.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Really though, the level of imperialism apologizing I've seen has been pretty humorous on this platform. Like people will say with a straight face that we need to support our client state Israel to secure our regional interests. It's the same song and dance from the concert of Europe giving guns to the corrupt African client kings so they can murder the other guy's corrupt African client kings. All for the noble civilizing influence of the state. But this time it'll turn out different. Just like it was different every other fucking time an empire ideologically justified it's imperialism. Because this one time is exceptional, unlike all the other instances of exceptionalism. Furthermore, I consider Carthage to need to be destroyed

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really though, the level of imperialism apologizing I’ve seen has been pretty humorous on this platform. Like people will say with a straight face that we need to support our client state Israel to secure our regional interests.

Is this being federated from some platform other than Lemmy? Because I have literally never seen someone support that position here.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Ah, Cato the Elder. He had a good cheesecake recipe, but was otherwise a complete jackass.

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