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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I just tell them to hang up and call me right back. In some scenarios that might not be the best solution but it is the easiest blanket approach that I can find to keep everyone safe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

"What colour are my pubes"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Klaatu barada nmmmpph

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Anyone born in the 80's probably still has the code word their parents gave them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We don't need code words, we need a proper PKI (public key infrastructure) for authenticated communication.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You receive a call from an unknown number and they tell you they've kidnapped your wife. They then give her the phone so you can hear her but she didn't do it through Signal so she's obviously not your wife so you just hang up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can use this to your benefit though

husband/wife walks up to you to start an argument

"sorry honey, you need your public key"

Instant win

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seems a bit hard to verbally exchange keys and sign your speech though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend doing that.

And that's not how you establish a PKI or implement AE (authenticated encryption). When I send a voice message e.g. I don't verbally sign it, that's actually part of KE (key exchange) protocol.

Same applies to non encrypted, authenticated communication of course.

And in case you are talking about physical face to face communication: I think you'd recognize your family and friends without the help of cryptography.

Edit: if you have any question, feel free to ask! Maybe I misunderstood you? Then I'm sorry

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Of course you don't verbally sign voice messages. That wouldn't make any sense at all unless you are a robot or something.

It was just a joke. But if you wanted to authenticate something (like an email, or voice I guess) in a PKI you would sign it using your certificate private key and the CA would tell the recipient if it's valid or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's what the article is about though, voice messages can now be spoofed. It happened to one of my friend's parents

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I was implying that you do the actual singing verbally. Like actually saying the bits, which would be pretty much impossible.

Of course you could sign voice messages. That would be like singing any other file.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Could just ask me about some niche topic im always info dumping about lmao.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Eww y'all have a code word? Those are easily guessable.

My wife and I have a random 6 digit code that rotates every 30-seconds based on an algorithm and if we don't properly authorize, we will refuse the connection.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eww you have a random rotating 6 digit code to connect with your wife? Those are easily guessable.

My wife and I have just agreed that we don't properly authorize, so we will always refuse the connection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just don't have a wife. Even more secure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I mean its not even 2FA exactly. It's more like TOTP which 2FA might use, granted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

The Secret Phrase is: hunter2

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just call my grandma now and again and attempt to scam her. Now she’s hardened.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I pentest my grandma about once or twice a year.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

So does your grandpa

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Grandmas doctors were getting out of hand so I had her put down

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

AI Says:

DECEIVE YOURSELF, DECEIVE THE WORLD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aw man, how do I give you Lemmy gold?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Best I can do

Lemmy Silver

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

My family gaslit me for decades.

I can only hope someone bothers to harass them with my own voice.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Between this and the recommendation to fall back to encrypted communication, this almost looks like someone trying to bootstrap a populace trained to evade the feds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And then tell it to them in person, or the FBI will know it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

My secret word is banana 🍌

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Wow, that’s Peter and Lois’s safe word, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is 🍌 also the safeword, or do I have to remember two words?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The safe word is Don't Stop, so 3 words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Well, I know "I'm prolapsing" isn't the safe word but gosh everything sure sounds wet

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