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Summary

Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, Trump’s nominee for US surgeon general, was involved in a 1990 gun accident at age 13 that killed her father.

A handgun fell from a tackle box she knocked over, discharging and fatally wounding him.

Nesheiwat cites the tragedy as her inspiration to become a physician but omits specifics of the incident in her upcoming memoir.

If confirmed, she would replace Dr. Vivek Murthy, who declared gun violence a public health crisis.

The nomination highlights GOP opposition to addressing gun violence through public health policy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

While searching for scissors in a fishing tackle box on a shelf above her father’s bed, she accidentally knocked over the box, causing a .380 caliber handgun inside to fall out and discharge. The bullet struck her father in the head as he slept.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

What gun goes off when dropped?

Edit: most handguns can’t fire when dropped. I’m wondering if this actually happened as described, or if it was an accidental shooting that was changed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

These kind of misfires are known to happen (Warning: fictional blood and gore). The right impact can either simulate a trigger pull, directly strike the firing pin itself, or otherwise jostle the firing pin free; especially in older firearms, whether due to design or wear. This is why some places mandate that new firearms sold have a drop safety mechanism.

It would likely have to have been stowed loaded and cocked. If it was in the tackle box, other objects in the box could have disengaged the manual safety (if it was even engaged in the first place) and bumped the trigger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Badly designed ones. Sig Saur rather infamously has had a ton of problems with guns firing when dropped or in a few instances when bumped while still in a holster.

Most guns should not be capable of going off when dropped or hit, there should be various safety features in place to prevent that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not disbelieving or discrediting but any specific models? I have time to spare sooooo I need a new sinkhole

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The P320 is the most recent one that's had this issue. Analysis seems to suggest it's a combination of a bad design and worse manufacturing. In particular the manufacturing quality of the sear has been pointed to as a possible source of issues. Since it looks like a manufacturing defect is a significant contributor many of them may be perfectly fine but it's hard to tell without doing a thorough teardown and inspection by someone trained to know exactly what they're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

One that's locked and loaded and put in a tackle box.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Muzzle loaders can go off when dropped.

When I was around 10 years old my dad had a couple of muzzle loader pistols that he enjoyed shooting. He gave me the safety talk, and showed me how it worked, then he handed me the gun for me to shoot for the first time. It was actually the first time I'd held the gun and it was much heavier that I thought it would be, and I immediately dropped it at our feet. Fortunately it didn't go off, but it left my dad pretty shook up.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What am I expected to be inferring from this? Why is this news? That's a horrible tragedy, and says nothing about the character of the woman. If anything, I'd assume it means she's likely to be on the side of firearm restrictions, and likely to agree with her predecessor on gun violence as a public health crisis. But the summary, at least, tries to frame it in the opposite manner?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I also expected better from The Guardian. This feels like it should be a sentence in a Wikipedia page not an article that introduces her to the public

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That hardly seems like it’s her fault or a fault against her.

More of a warning about keeping a gun unsecured like that.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right? I’m all for gun control and I’m sure she’s a complete buffoon if Trump wants her to have any power but this ain’t the angle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

it feels similar in spirit to the kind of thing you’d find on fox news. it’s disappointing to see it on the guardian

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

A nice assault rifle would be a thoughtful Christmas gift for her children.