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[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes and shows how trickle down was right all along.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

I see it more as the absurdity of capitalism.

We have people starving on the streets, people unable to afford healthcare, yet the jobs the self-proclaimed “efficiency” of capitalism creates, is labour intended to protect the people who caused these problems in the first place, not labour intended to help the people who face these problems.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

i don't think it counts as such when the money didn't go down but sideways.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

They'll pay you peanuts to protect their gold. The only gold trickling down is a shower

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Trickle down economics works in the way a dead CEO was not murdered. 🐸

We too can play funny games daddy

They love preaching social Darwinism... But are they ready for natural selection 🙃

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're going to outsource that to AI-robots soon. And then I hope they malfunction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh that would be a neat challenge.

AI security guards (which I can only imagine look like Daleks from Dr Who) vs the public. How long before they just outright massacre a crowd?

Or, better yet, what happens when people start using drones as flying pipe bombs and the robots can't even aim at it.

Ooooh or better yet, we can create devices that create a distraction for the AI robots.

Or, since I am pretty sure they'd be using some wireless connection of some sort, bring a signal jammer and just push em over.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Rich people spending some money is not trickle-down economics.

Trickle down economics is the lie that centralising capital in the hands of the few benefits everyone due to their increased ability to invest their capital.

What happens is they spend a small amount of their fortune in self-serving pursuits (e.g. their security in this scenario) and then they hoard the vast majority of what's left. The incentive structure of capitalism means a capitalist benefits more from holding capital than distributing it.

The system is broken by design and cannot be fixed without replacing it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Trickle down is more lying by omission. Wealth trickles down, but at the same time flows up through various means so it's a net negative for the poor, thus concentrating wealth on the hands of the few.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The system is broken by design and cannot be fixed without replacing it

Teach them well: Explain also why the democratic republic has failed to protect society from the consequences of unmitigated capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the democratic republic

Is it in the room with us right now, sir?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's quite sick and weak. But, it sure is.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Up voted for the dark humor but sincerely it's Feudalism. A central state nor laws cannot be relied on for order nor process so those with the means purchase or are anointed with safety and power.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

No. Trickle-down economics is the theory that deregulation and business-friendly laws result in more successful businesses who can pay their employees better. What it forgets is on one side, who are paying for those businesses to get successful, and that businesses in general are interested in low wages above all.

This would be "job creation" at best, with the G4S shareholders getting most of the spend, the actual security guards are underpaid peons like us.

However, it would at least show and remind the leeches every day that they have something to fear.

Also, security details can be great at their job, but a lot of it is theatre, and even a determined lone assailant can get very far. And they only have to win once, the security detail has to win every day.

Trump was almost killed despite the USSS, JFK was also shot way back when. Is G4S better than the USSS?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The problem with any deregulation theory is that deregulation does not exist. Especially in a country like US.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In the US, unions are very strictly regulated, but aeroplane manufacturers are pretty much completely unregulated.

We see the results.

Or what exactly do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's a great point! Let's discuss it!

You see, regulations can be split into two categories: consumer protection and business protection.

Consumer protection policies and regulations protect consumers from business malpractice. For example, here in Europe we have 1-2 years (depending on the country) of warranty for every product sold enshrined in the law. And that's something unheard of in the US, because communism or something.

On the other hand, business protection regulations protect existing businesses against competition. A good example is software patents: so common in the US, non existent in Europe.

Somehow when lobbyists are brainwashing American public to get more regulations, they're talking about business protection and when they want to deregulate something they're talking about removing consumer protections and American public makes the wrong choice every time.

Speaking of planes you can see this in Europe again: no competition regulations for air lines, yet strong consumer protections resulting in loads of air lines popping up all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

To be fair, trump was a candidate / former president at the time, not the sitting president nor president-elect. The USSS probably just let their guard down and didn't expect anyone to try anything.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Who expected a multimillionaire to be targeted before very public figures like Musk? And will private security take their job more seriously than the USSS?

If they only kill the billionaires whose security lets their guard down because "no way it's happening to us", that still makes for a steady stream of blood.

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