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This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let's be civil.

And if you're a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Yes, because murder is illegal. But if they never find the guy... That's okay too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One way or another, he's going to be prosecuted. And that's just the reality of it. He can't run forever and he will be traced someday.

I'm just glad he did what so many Americans wish that they could do and continue daydreaming of doing.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

For me it's a classic Trolley Problem.

Catching and prosecuting this guy will make healthcare barons feel that much safer and more likely to kill more Americans.

A random murder is evil. A murder that ends an evil life while saving thousands of random lives is not.

Don't fall in love with your precious texts scribbled by long dead legislators.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Of course he should be prosecuted.

Regardless of what the victim has done or was doing you can't have a society where it's regarded as ok to intentionally walk up to someone on the street and murder them. That way lies anarchy and madness.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I wish we lived in a society where people cared enough to do some kickass anarchy like the public assassination of evil.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly? Not really, you can't fault him. But I'd really rather if the executives could actually go to jail.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Even after hearing how much of a total POS shit the CEO is, yes. That's just a basic part of the rule of law. You murder someone, you get prosecuted. It's a really dangerous path for a society when it's open season to outright murder people when they're unpopular.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

The fictional outcome that might work best - the shooter has a terminal condition, escapes punishment until their final weeks, publicly admits what and why they did it and dies before the courts can really do anything. That way there’s closure, justice is left in limbo, and the shooter doesn’t really escape either. No happy ending, it’s not a happy story.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, hell yes.

Get this man in a court room. Let the prosecutors spend weeks trying to find a jury where no one (or any of their relatives and friends) has been fucked over for life because of shitty insurance.

Let them talk about how unstoppable, determined, and committed the defendant was.

And then have the jury nullify the case.

It would be a good day to be alive.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How about some jury nullification.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is my best-case scenario.

If they catch the guy, obviously he should stand trial. That's how the law works in the US. But I think that jury nullification could be the appropriate response to a trial.

This guy might be the closest thing we have to a modern-day Robin Hood. And while we all agree that Robin Hood broke the law, no reasonable person wants to see the Sheriff of Nottingham win.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From an idealist perspective, yes. I want to be able to believe that the law holds everyone equally accountable and no one should be above it.

However from my current realistic position, I know damn well as do we all that they law already doesn't hold everyone equally accountable -- not even close. And the fact that the deceased made a living doing what he did is just exhibit A on a very, very long list of examples. The rule of law has clearly already broken down, which means all bets are off. The fact that it's been doing so slowly over the course of decades rather than in a single coup or hypothetical night of broken glass is completely irrelevant.

Furthermore, even if the shooter is prosecuted I feel that "this was clearly in the best interest of society as a whole given the harm that the deceased was still actively inflicting on thousands of people" should be a valid legal defense.

Most jurisdictions already allow for the use of deadly force in defense of yourself or others against a perpetrator who represents a clear and present danger to the safety, health, or lives of others. This is just that, but with an extra logical extension riveted on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

That Kennedy quote is getting a lot of use:

”Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

Most people are sick of seeing the wealthy escape consequences, they know the wealthy are the largest benefactors of a lot of the issues we face, from climate change to health care claims being denied, they drive disparity to greater extremes, and control the media and profit from the resulting unrest.

They’re parasites. They offer nothing worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Nope, but the shit CEO is the root cause.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not one bell pepper. I want the executives of every health insurance company tried for war crimes. I want The Adjuster to be carried through the streets and lauded as the hero he is.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

No. Fuck no

But unfortunately if he is caught, the pigs on the payroll will cut him down to avoid any trial or the tape. The elite will want to make an example out of him to prevent others from acting out

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No! But we could slice the CEO into small pieces.... Accidentally.... And accidentally drop the pieces in resin and sell them on eBay? Then when you go in for a healthcare review, you come in wearing the pendant.... "Oh this? Its the tip of his penis! I paid $300 for it, it was cheap!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I bid 2 bars of gold pressed latinum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Executive leadership clearly makes common people feel a certain way.

Are they wrong? I don't know...

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'd like the CEO prosecuted post-mortem, and any charges transmitted equally to any and all other policy-makers at UHC.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since I'm not in a jury selection panel I would recommend any patriotic American who finds themselves in one shuts the fuck up about their knowledge of jury nullification until they are selected. Then says fuck the law and dutifully informs their fellow jurors about it.

What the fuck are they going to do? Prosecute you? Make jury nullification a headline?

Imagine how your trial for nullification would go.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Yes. He murdered someone. Will I curl up in a ball and cry for hours if he's never caught? Not so much.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Yes. Jury nullification is my right.

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