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Seriously though, don't do violence.
For legal reason I wish to say that I don't advocate violence. I also say that, I really think this was the only way this was going to happen.
Billionaires only do the right thing if it's profitable or if they're afraid.
Seriously though, don't do violence.
Why not? It's a perfectly fair response to the violence perpetuated upon millions of "customers" annually, made "legitimate" by paid off lawmakers. Why should we not be allowed to respond in kind when they're allowed to kill us - just because it's in a more roundabout method? Fuck 'em. I've never been a gun type, but right-wingers have really been getting me to rethink that stance.
The legislature and violence monopoly are there to ensure all people have legal recourse instead of needing to turn to violence. If you corrupt that system and use it to oppress the masses, they become violent.
I neither agree with, nor condone violence, but it does not surprise me at all. Just surprised that it took so long.
Its Afraid.
I was really hoping we would avoid violence by electing people like Bernie Sanders. Instead it looks like the class warfare will come to violence.
We really have no other option left
correlation is not causation.
repeat the experiment.
Hmmmm... I wonder what would cause pharmaceutical prices mysteriously drop?
Haiii helloo I'm a bit OOTL and I don't live in the States.
I hear this CFO got killed and that the health insurance company was exceptionally awful. But I don't understand the time limit on anesthesia part. What time limits? What's that about? Like "you only get anesthesia for the first day you're hospitalized" time limits?
Basically, BCBS was only going to reimburse the amount of anesthesia that government medical agencies estimate a procedure requires. So, an appendectomy is estimated to take an hour, but your surgery takes an hour and a half, then you're on the hook for the anesthetic costs for the last 30 minutes. There was a lot of backlash to that decision, and I guess they're taking backlash pretty seriously...for some reason.
I see I see. Awful. Thanks for all the answers
You know how in many industries there is a standard amount of time something takes and that determines the standard cost? Like it takes .5 work hours to change your oil so they charge .5 of labor + cost? Well, as I understand it, the plan was to limit the amount of anesthesia they'd cover based on the standard/expected time a medical procedure would take.
"In other words, if a procedure takes longer than expected, patients may wake up to an unexpected bill." https://www.prevention.com/health/a63104965/blue-cross-blue-shield-anthem-insurance-anesthesia-time-limit/
They proposed only paying for a certain amount of anesthesia during surgery, ie you are getting a kidney transplant you only get 45 min of anesthesia the rest wouldn't be covered.
They were considering putting a time limit on the anesthesia they would pay for during procedures. Have a complication and the surgery runs long? Guess you're going to be in intense pain.
More like you will be on the hook for the anesthesia bill.
What is an extra several thousand dollars when you are already paying through the nose for insurance.
I bet they would make even more money if they just took your money and refused to ever pay out.
bet they would make even more money if they just took your money and refused to ever pay out.
You got new CEO written all over you. We're also hiring.
Nice try UnitedHealthcare.
I think it would be the other way around: the doctors don't stop giving you anesthesia if the surgry goes long, but now you wake up to it costing some extra thousands of dollars.
Maybe if several more CEOs and C Suite suits are murdered in the street, then my insurance rates will only rise by single digits next year.
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Denying healthcare = violence
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
~ Asimov
And here we are, nailed to the fucking wall. I'm fine with expanding this "incompetence".
The M4A movement was absolutely incompetent if you compared it to health insurance Super PACs. It was basically a bunch unpaid volunteers, many with their own medical debt, against fully salaried lobby groups paid for with our premiums, our denied claims.
So like, one rough day, and I mean really rough? Sounds familiar, wait it's coming back... dictator but only on day one - that kind of thing?
I feel like Asimov's statement has to be couched in some larger discussion. Taken in a vacuum, I can see some merit, but I can't say that I completely agree with it. Incompetent in what aspect? I feel that his quote ignores intention. For some, violence isn't something that they're resorting to due to a failure to communicate through conflict, it is the preferred tool for the job. He comes off a little condescending and armchair intellectual-y here. I prefer the Sun Tzu quote someone mentioned earlier in the thread, "Violence is a precipitation of two sides unwilling to compromise."
yeah I love Asimov but the quote is stupid. What is a slave supposed to do to it's master? Write a strongly worded letter? Beg for others to save them?
Violence absolutely makes sense when there's no diplomatic solution and unfortunately quarter into the 21st century - where we should have personal robots and moon bases - that is still a pretty big issue.