How many more sanctions can the US still put on Russia? They've shown that western sanctions mean nothing as long as India and China are willing to do business.
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There always the option of sanctioning countries that don't sanction the target country.
This should already be happening to Russia. It should be a ratcheting strategy of continuing sanctions till Russia retreat back to their own borders.
Awwwe yeah let's get it.
Government: kills one person
USA: sanctions! All the sanctions!
Other government: kills 29,000 persons
USA: would you, idk, like some more bombs?
sounds serious
They'll teach'em!
So have they been holding back this whole time?
It would start to become less about sanctioning russia and more about applying sanctions to anyone who does any kind of business with them
I bet they are going to cancel Putin's Netflix account now. Could start WW3
Nyetflix.
Whoa whoa whoa, that's maybe too harsh. Maybe just downgrade him to ad-supported?
People like you literally want to see the world burn. Sanctions I understand, but advertisements, might as well threaten him with waterboarding.
Cool now do Israel.
Israel represents a massive foothold in the region for the US, as well as facilitating all of those new oil pipelines running through Gaza. Palestinians are probably going to be wiped off the face of the Earth in order to keep that sweet sweet oil money in American politician's pockets.
This.
So either they were going light on sanctions despite Russia invading and attacking a sovereign nation or they're lying about adding sanctions just for diplomatic clout.
The idea is that you don't dump all of your sanctions at once onto Russia, because then they have nowhere else to go but to escalation. The west wants to give Putin economic "off-ramps" so he can withdraw from Ukraine out of financial pressure rather than with violence.
That's not exactly how sanctions work. You have legal limits on sanctions based on trade agreements. Certain actions by the other nation allow you to enact or lift sanctions and still keep the trade agreements and diplomatic ties in place.
Why should anyone care about legal obligations to Russia? A country that invades its neighbors is not operating within the realm of law and should not benefit from legal protections.
Because geopolitics is a hard problem that ends up being unfair by nature.
"It's complicated" is a non-answer. How, specifically, do Western countries benefit from honoring agreements with a country that is currently threatening them with nuclear weapons?
If I owe money to a someone who murders my neighbor and then threatens to murder me and all my other neighbors, I'm never going to pay him no matter what I agreed to in the past. That goes double if the murderer is also a broke alcoholic who spends all his money on weapons.
Your question is a good one, and I don't understand why you got down voted for asking.
The thing to keep in mind, is that it's not between us and Russia.
Russia has still working trade agreements with other countries. Countries we also have trade agreements with. Like China.
Us fucking with Russia against our established trade agreements, might looks to China like we could do the same to them if they did something up another country we didn't agree with.
So honoring those trade agreements with Russia, protects the other agreements we have with other countries.
'it's complicated' is easier to say, but the truth is that most countries don't get along with each other. Especially those that share borders. This creates some very difficult dynamics to keep the world economy in place.
We could, of course, stop. But then the world economy would collapse.
Well for one there is a relatively stable government in charge there so containment and appeasement are good options. If we were to turn the vice too hard, their eyeballs might pop out of their head, and by that I mean the mostly stable government could collapse and the nuclear material could be lost, and by lost I mean western countries would not know exactly where it is and what it's doing.
It's complicated but it's not really that complicated. I'm sure I could explain this to a five year old.
it's possible that new avenues for sanctions have opened up since the last round which the State Dept can now pursue.
interesting, thanks for the education. I also came here to shout "how are there sanctions left to give?!", and I didn't consider 'rules of engagement' would apply like that.
time passes, new opportunities present themselves. for example: a lot of investigations into where Russian oligarchs have been hiding their money have come to fruition, so seizing those funds through various channels has become an option. New ways Russians have been funneling money through backchannels have presented themselves meaning there are new channels for pursuit.
things chang over time, meaning that new sanctions may be possible. there’s a lot we, as civilians, won’t and can’t know.
Double secret sanctions
Who told you about the double secret sanctions???
Somebody broke Rule 1 of the Double Secret Sanctions Club.