this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2024
39 points (97.6% liked)

science

15026 readers
130 users here now

A community to post scientific articles, news, and civil discussion.

rule #1: be kind

<--- rules currently under construction, see current pinned post.

2024-11-11

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 6 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

AI training to generate it's own dog food

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow. This sounds great... Can someone from the field tell me if it is?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's 'great' along the same lines as if the US gov announced paying all citizens insurance premiums for 3 years. Sure, more would temporarily have access to a service they should already permanently have access to, but in reality it shines a spotlight on how serious the problem is.

India paid $55k per journal for 3 years access... to knowledge. Knowledge that the journals did nothing to accrue themselves. If you can make that make sense then sure it is a good thing in that it is better than not having access at all or for a more egregious cost.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Now that you mention it, this I'd actually, truly, insane. $55k?! Per journal? Goddamn that's a lot of money. And I would assume little to no money would reach the actual researchers who spent months and years working in this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

little to no money would reach the actual researchers who spent months and years working in this.

Researchers often pay to get reviewed/published. Typically due to the Journal being open access, but often for things like 'expedited review'.

Regardless, they don't get paid for the article, relying on donations or grants to fund the research (with publication costs included in the proposal).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Wow. I can't even begin to imagine how broken the system has to be when the people on whose shoulders we stand, work on donations and grants.