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This guy's dad is the former VP of a multibillion dollar Turkish conglomerate, as well as the secretary of a government department. Mom and Dad were able to fly to their other home in NJ to give birth so he'd get US citizenship. His uncle is the founder and owner of TYT Media and gave him his media career. He went to Rutgers. He lives in a multimillion dollar mansion in the Hollywood Hills. This is by definition not the kind of person who can be a voice of the People. Saying "I recognize my privilege" over and over, while living his lifestyle, doesn't negate his privilege and complete lack of real-life experience outside of the curated garden of the wealthy. He gets paid obscene amounts of cash to sit in his bedroom and word-vomit for 9 hours a day. Why are his unending opinions taken so seriously? He gives me strong controlled opposition vibes.

Edit: Thank you all for this discussion. I learned a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I have no idea who this guy is but Fidel was the child of a plantation owner.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

What's your cut off? At what financial point is someone allowed to take part in trying to fix a broken system?

If it's only people who don't benefit from the system who are allowed to fight against it, should white people not try to fight the system? Cis? Straight? Able bodied? Able minded? Are only poor trans lesbians with two types of disabilities allowed to try to fight the system?

I don't know the guy from Adam and I'm not gonna say he's not well off, and I get that it seems sketch, but he's at least doing something with his money other than sitting on it trying to get richer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Obsessing over "privilege" smells like jealousy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Net worth isn't a thing except for the aristocratic right. There, privilege implies belonging; and when coupled with egocentric decisions is basically their entire theme.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

He's more conventionally attractive, confident, charismatic, muscular, well dressed, and less of a drama king/queen than most other leftist influencers his age, and he speaks in more Gen Z lingo/vocabulary than other left wing influencers (who are often older) with similar knowledge levels and political stances.

Oh, and he is already popular, on a platform where people love to exist in one-sided, parasocial relationships.

... Sorry if this bursts your bubble, but even most self described leftists basically operate by the same fundamental popularity / favorability dynamics that middle or high schoolers do, whether concsiously or subconsciously.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So what? A class traitor is a class traitor, and we only have to win with this. What's next, you gonna say Engels wasn't a communist because he was a part of the bourgeoisie?

You do not need some sort of vow of poverty to be a true leftist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You do not need some sort of vow of poverty to be a true leftist.

helps though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Semi off-topic but genuinely curious: did going to Rutgers become something that is fancy/seen akin to Ivy league? Or was mention of the school just a mention that he went to college?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Rutgers and Princeton have an intertwined history, but that's pretty much it. Rutgers is seen as a good state school and to many it's mostly because it sounds like a private school.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

He sometimes tells his audience to log off and join an org, we get a handful of new recruits occasionally due to the guy.

So he actually is successfully moving people from being socialist sympathizers to actual socialists (you need to be part of an org to be a socialist)

That's all I really know about him, besides some people being thirsty about him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Crazy that Marx and Engels weren't socialists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Lol someone got to it before I could.

Crazy how history doesn't agree with your gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Marx was part of the Young Hegelians. Marx and Engles were part of the Communist League (if not it's literal sun around whom the League revolved), and Marx and Engels were also the founders of the German Workers' Society.

The idea that Marx was a recluse internet style poster with no attachment to real society is a 21st century invention to make vaguely left people feel better about their alienation and a strawman for the right to attack.

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