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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I hate you all! (not really)

I had to travel to the hospital this week for an appointment. It had been snowing for a few days before, so I used public transport instead of taking the motorbike.

It cost me £14.90 in tickets, which is enough to fill my tank and ride about 150 miles, and it took a little over two hours in each direction, rather than about 45 minutes. I travelled for about 45 miles in total.

The first bus, according to Google Maps, stopped 43 times and only took me about half way. The second bus was much better, and only stopped seven times, and the third bus was so late that I walked the last half a mile or so and got told off for having high blood pressure 🙈

The first bus was freezing cold, and both were quite cramped with no tables, so the idea of working on the bus was out of the window before I started.

Coming home, the trains were running, so I caught a bus to the nearest station on my line, thinking it would be a better option.

The bus, like the others, had no indication of which stop we were at, so I spent the whole time checking Google Maps and looking for street signs. Google tried to tell me that the train station was underneath a bridge and in the middle of the train tracks, but was pretty good apart from that. The train was quite crowded, but I managed to get a seat.

Luckily for me, my mother was picking my kid up from school as the train was pulling in, so picked me up from the station rather than me having to catch a bus for the last leg.

All in all, I was travelling for about four hours, and had to drag my disabled arse for a mile or so between stops and stations. I genuinely envy those of you who have decent public transport systems, but I can definitely see why people don't use them here at least 🙁

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bad public transport is bad. This is done on purpose. It shouldn't be up to people to deal with bad public transport. It is on us to pressure our governments to improve it. When it's better people will just use it.

We also need to make people aware of how much money car infrastructure costs. It's mostly invisible to them, but in reality they pay a ton of money for it. Good public transport would save them money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, definitely. I don't know how much is deliberate and how much is incompetence here though.

I'm in Wales, so we've had the speed limit change to 20 mph. The point was supposedly to encourage people onto public transport, but the lower speeds have slowed the buses down to the point where services have dropped from every 10 to every 15 minutes. It might not sound like much, but when you're standing in the rain at one of the many stops without shelters, it makes a difference.

The much promoted electrification of the new South Wales Metro line has caused problems too. The train used to run on the same line to Cardiff and back, but now takes a different route to return. It now loops around Cardiff, taking an extra 30 minutes or so if you're coming from the stations before Cardiff Central.

I haven't been on one of the new trains yet, but apparently they've removed the toilets, claiming that the trains run every 15 minutes. The problem with that is, they only go to the nearest big town, Pontypridd. If you're travelling further up the line than that, they're still every 30 minutes to an hour, depending on the time of day.

It's a shit show, and doesn't seem to be getting better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

I wish public transport was more of a thing where I am. I personally really enjoy driving for leisure, but it'd be really nice to have the choice.

I should look up my local bus lines and operating hours. I think there are some around me, it's just extremely sparse from what I understand

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

banlieusard de Paris frérot on t'a reconnu 😏👌🤜🤛

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The bus here would be pretty nice, it's around $2 for a one-way ticket or (I think) $5 for a day pass which includes the LRT.

The problem is, I have to drive to the bus stop or walk about 3 miles down a very dangerous, rural road that doesn't have space to walk on the side of it most of the time.. and the bus arrives "every 30 minutes" which ends up actually being about once an hour.
The LRT portion of it is great though aside from having to drive to the station. It's much faster than driving and is consistently on time so I do use it whenever I'm trying to go somewhere near one of its stops

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Would biking help bridge that gap?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Biking helps but still is very dangerous with little to no biking infrastructure (Just a painted line that varies from generous amounts of space to literally no space at all forcing you in the road) where drivers just love driving 60+mph in a 45 zone lol.
and the inconsistency of the bus being on time makes the risk just not worth it most of the time so I just end up driving everywhere and feeling bad about it haha

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Driving to the station can be a good solution for more rural or spread out areas to still have access to transit in denser areas. It helps keep the cars away from the denser areas. It isn't perfect but its better than funneling cars straight downtown.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So have cities cut a deal with the feds for untaxed diesel? I always wonder. The feds might be down.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

rising gas prices

Most of my local public transport is electrically-powered now, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

who buys tickets with cash anymore lol

I did recently when I lost my travel card. Some people also travel using cash habitually for privacy reasons (What if someone has an abusive partner watching bank card transactions and transport card accounts? What if there's a data breach? I recall a few years ago one train network voluntarily gave aggregated trip data to a student researcher which could pretty easily be deanonymized.)

Maybe it's different where you live, but cash certainly lives here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most public transportation systems are funded by subsidizes. Fares only make 1/10th of most revenue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's why they aren't private transportation systems 😉

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are few. They usually subcontract all the shit the public systems don't want to do. They do it for margins and do it with crap pay to the drivers and service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Most of my local public transport is electrically-powered now

Which is kind of my point. Over the years our public transport has been proudly advertising their use of biodiesels and bio gas, CNG and LNG. And apparently battery-electric buses are coming too. (Sorry, Adam Something. Apparently our city cannot into trams, as fucking awesome as it would be! But apparently the Green Party is proposing TRAINS)

cash certainly lives here

Yeah, and that was kind of a pointed example on my part. I don't think cash is going away entirely. That said, vast majority of our public transport is already apparently either going on prepaid cards or debit so, eh.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile here in the Midwest the cities are opting to not even continue service because the bus company wants too much. Last I heard four cities had done so in my area. The busses still run their same routes through my city. They just don't stop.

I miss having a bus. Even tho the nearest stop was about a mile and a half walk.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm in Albuquerque, NM. They did a test last year of Free Buses. Then made it permanent this year.

I've never used the bus, because the city is very much built for driving. But I do like that that the bus is free. Just wish I didn't have to walk a mile, and up a big hill to get to my closest stop.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How do you like living in Albuquerque, if I may ask?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

I like it. But I seem to be in the minority. Everybody around me complains about all kinds of stuff. Mostly crime. But they do that in every city.

The weather is pretty mild. I do not miss dealing with feeet of snow every year.
There is plenty to do. Though I did hear someone from LA complain they were bored. But I came from a small town.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Over here we already have plenty of memes based on "What if Breaking Bad happened in Europe? It'd been very underwhelming because we have public healthcare." But I'm glad Albuquerque can at least say "well we could maybe have mitigated some of the car shenanigans in the series now."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The joke here is that Canadian Breaking Vad is the same TV show, except he is trying to pay for parking.

  1. Every hospital has along term parking solution you just need to ask about.

  2. Take public transit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

The Canadian version would be still getting into cooking meth to afford housing now.