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And no, I will not tell you what my company app is.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

The company app is for actual work, the others are for instagram and netflix

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I worked for a big Euro bank for a bit and that was exactly it. JS timeouts were forbidden, so no animation to tell you something was finished, you had to keep clicking a Refresh button to know. In 2022.
And the colleagues who had been there a few years were actually defending this shit. Stockholm Syndrome is what it is. There wasn't a day I didn't complain about their piece of garbage of an intranet.
I'm so glad it's behind me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, so many company overload there screens with button. I can understand why Apple and Google keep doing there thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I have to disagree. Removing features for the sake of simplifying things for the idiot masses frustrates me like no other. To this day I'm still upset over the removal of the Menu button in Android.

Also, love to be that guy: it's their. I'll never understand why people mix up their, there, and they're so easily. Same goes for you're and your. I realize that I'm being a dick but this shit is basic elementary school English.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I am getting flashbacks on dealing with SAP "inspired" software that looked worse than that bottom image. I am glad my new company does not use that garbage. It was especially depressing to see how SAP entirely ruined Concur.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This is not true. Literally all of apples computers lack the touch feature on their primary screens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Did you see the word "computer" somewhere in this image?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
  1. Those apps are simple
  2. Those apps target a wide audience, hence have more budget as a result
  3. Those apps are made by large, well oiled (you'd hope at least) companies. You don't want my honest opinion on most small software development boxes. This industry grew faster than mentors became available for the newbies, so many devs including seniors still don't know what they are doing.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

So so incredibly true. I provide Admin support for folks that want to publish apps with Apple and let me tell you, it's the wild fuckin west out there and I'm not even talking about the coding part which I'm sure is a hellscape if my side of things is anything to go by.

Mom and pop got an app idea for passive income so they just hire a company to publish it for then, usually from India, with devs who can't put two and two together because they work for assholes that want apps pumped out asap. They don't want critical thinkers, they don't want knowledgeable employees, what they want are tons of employees they can take advantage of as cheaply as possible that can do a good enough job to stay afloat and make them money. These guys know basic code and nothing else nor do they seem to want to know how to actually manage a development team, they seem like they are under a lot of pressure. I personally don't actually code or know how to code outside of basic HTML Myspace bullshit but I do know how to get shit published and I know how to get the apps ready for publishing. I know these things because our guides are massive and massively detailed with screenshots to help you out and yet I'm busier than ever. 90% of my job outside of the admin and fraud prevention work I have to do is sitting on the phone reading instructions word for word or copying and pasting it from the guides for people who should be able to understand the content, but they don't.

Imo as someone that's been doing this for 5 years now, it's a bubble and she's ready to burst. It'll be another .com crash that we'll all pretend we didn't see coming.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Whoever made this has never used Google Cloud Platform.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There's a difference between software that's designed to be easy for people that haven't seen it before and software that's meant to be used by someone that's been trained to use it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I think it's more a case of needing to be idiot proof and provide the correct answer every time. Some people using it may have been trained but they also may be absolutely useless at using technology. Google may be simple but it doesn't give you exactly what you're looking for and all the relevant information on the first attempt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes and no. I did build several in-house enterprise applications and for this I know about this problem. And yes you're right, a lot of the complicated contexts are more complex than searching on Google.

But! Enterprise software architects have a tendency to make every feature as visible, and also making the apps as feature rich as possible. This comes with high costs.

I always try to establish a strive with exactly what google delivers.

Cage the user in his first decision, Filter or action and then show him or her the application with all the features feasible in the chosen context. It is amazing how complexity reduced most of these applications are when you just ask this first question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please remind Microsoft of this as they continue to “improve and modernize” windows.

Can’t even use keyboard shortcuts to save a damn picture in paintbrush.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What the heck is paintbrush?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It’s called Paint now. Back in the old days it was called Paintbrush. It’s an anachronism.

FWIW MS has Paint 3D now and will probably have Paint 365 and Paint Series X before we know it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was always called Paint. Paintbrush is the Mac equivalent

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Hmm so back in Windows 3.1, Wikipedia said paintbrush was a Mac app from the early 90s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You forgot the ads on google

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is a clear difference here: the first software, you pay to use. The last one, you get paid to use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

100% this. I used to work at a company that sold software that mechanical engineers used all day, every day in a certain field. Our app looked like the last pic but with better alignment.

People who are competent want all the things on their screen all at once all the time. They also want keyboard shortcuts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I think there’s a balance and I would say it looks like autocad. It can be annoying to use but holy hell when you know what you’re doing. Low floor, high ceiling, and rarely gets in your way

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

An automation API would also be nice please.. ^(i^ ^hope^ ^it^ ^doesn't^ ^require^ ^an^ ^additional^ ^$4000/y^ ^licence)^

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