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Missing a slam-dunk headline (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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(FYI - the article that the guy is replying to is misinformation. Two commenters have provided snopes links for anyone curious.)

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Oops, this is some misinformation, friend. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rfk-wellness-farms/

Exaggerated claims designed to provoke a reaction, even in humorous contexts like this, make it harder for us to perceive and react to actual dangerous threats that might come our way. And we're definitely going to need to have an accurate and truthful view of the world in the coming days.

It's a good joke, it's a great joke even, but even so, we shouldn't spread misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

What an absolute asshole of a journalist you have to be to twist someone's words like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Idk, I'm sure that many politicians aren't advocating for LGBTQ youth to be "sent" to conversation camps.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Tfw you say something and everyone hates it and then someone else comes by and says the same thing in a slightly different way and everyone likes it 😑

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good luck managing us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Like herding catgirls.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bro taking out Cheryl Hines?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I used to think so highly of her before I found out

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The same RFK Jr. who credits heroin for his academic success.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

So far all of the orange appointments are looking like videogame minibosses

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Sign me up to be player one then so I can go full Wolfenstein on these Nazi assholes

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[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The term "concentration camps" usually doesn't refer to places people volunteer to go to. The headline's clickbait enough as it is.

[+] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So what you're saying is that the reality isn't bad enough so we need to make shit up and exaggerate everything? Because I disagree with that. I think things are bad enough that you can just be truthful about it, and lying is actually counterproductive because it discredits legitimate criticism.

Like if you want to talk about concentration camps, we've already got them for undocumented migrants.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Camps like this already exist for kids and teenagers, the best example is the Elan school. Though they have been having increased pushback this could be a way to keep them running by including adults. Basically nobody should trust this idea on the base concept, since even if RFK Jr is legit trying to do a good thing with ernest sincerity he is still putting things in place to enable such abuse.

Also even if it starts out voluntary I garunfuckentee it will be involuntary via court order eventually. It will most likely start as a addict rehab but quickly evolve into a place to shove mentally ill folks into.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

OK, but a news article describing what "RFK says" should not say that he says he wants concentration camps when that's not at all what he said. You're free to speculate about what his real intentions might be, but the news has a responsibility to report what he actually said, not their personal opinion of what it might eventually turn into.

Saying that he said he wants "labor camps" is already taking some wild creative liberties. Like, if I rent a cabin in a campsite and bring my laptop to do some work while I'm out there, is that a "labor camp?" I'm at a camp and I'm doing labor, I guess. But to say that he explicitly called for "concentration camps" is just an outright lie. And it's absolutely wild to me that anyone would want the news to lie to them! You're asking for the press to be more sensationalist, and judging by the downvotes, that's just majority opinion here.

Some of us actually take the risks seriously and need to have accurate threat modelling. I have no patience for this game of making stuff up to get mad about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Fair enough, hence why I outlined my actual threat modeling. This shit historically has a pretty straightforward progression.

I said nothing about concentration camps on purpose as well for just that reason. But yeah I wont take Captain Brain worm on his word, at best he is honest and just ignorant to what will happen with them at worst he is lying.

Anyways I was just pointing out that we really shouldn't take him at his word. That doesnt mean taking active action, it just means dont believe him. Though I do agree that folks calling it a concentration camp are risking watering down the actual issues that will most likely arise, after all if all their doing is waterboarding folks when you expect gas chambers it makes it seem less horrific.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah "choose to go" is a euphemism for "parents can decide to send their children against their will"

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