cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22447069
The difference between Russian and American authoritarianism
Ruled by oligarchs -----> ruled by oligarchs
this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2024
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On the surface it seems like these comparisons are valid, but there’s truly a world of difference in how America deals with its people.
The fact still remains that skilled immigrants can come to America and make a life for themselves. It doesn’t matter who they are. Or that non-white or non-Christians can get elected to the U.S. congress.
America started out with an idealism it’s failing to live up to, and it’s the fault of those who indulge realpolitiks over that idealism. This isn’t an America problem, there’s a rot that’s taken over the soul of humanity. We’re casting aside intellectualism and enlightenment for realpolitiks.
Make no mistake though, people cannot be trusted so you always have to protect yourself. But there’s no civilization without ideals for humanity.
America was founded by genocidal slavers who were angry about being unfairly taxed.
America has never been a moral nation. It is literally founded on stolen land, paved over the bodies of that land's natives, and built by the labor of the enslaved.
I would agree that America is not the only nation in the world with many of these problems. I'm an anarchist, so I fundamentally don't really believe that a completely moral state is ever possible. But even so America stands out particularly starkly even in comparison to other contemporary states.
I think your point is valid, but what I am saying is we shouldn’t begrudge the past its lack of perfection. Let’s look at where people are now, and where they can go from here.
Looking for answers in the past is often a fools errand. We need to shed the baggage of our forefathers.
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Great point. America is a perfect example of human brain rot and ignorance, but it's worldwide.
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Kleptocracy ➡️ Kleptocracy
You mean, like Fox News?
Agreed except for the secret police part.
I feel like secret police are undercover cops who specifically enforce the laws or policy of secret courts.
A cop posing as a kid online to bait a sexual predator isn't "secret police" like the Stasi to me.
The Chicago blacksites seem like they would fit that description, they gave zero fucks about due process or civil rights, following their own law
To me secret police are plain clothes officers who drive ordinary looking cars until the hidden lights come on. They're literally keeping it a secret from the public that they're enforcing the law.
To the rest of us secret police don’t turn on the lights
It’s fbi/cia level
That's not a definition of "secret police" I've ever heard of, but you're obviously more than welcome to think of it that way. Just know that's not what the rest of us are referring to.
Agreed. Undercover DEA agent busting up a drug ring (regardless of debate about what drugs should be legalized) is a bit different from a task force suppressing political opposition through imprisonment and "accidents ". Though I'm wondering if the gap with decrease over the next four years...
How about agent provocateurs infiltrating protests and instigating crime as a pretense for police to crack down?
Would that qualify?
Count on it. I recall seeing videos of protestors around Trump's last year in office getting yanked into unmarked vans. I think it was around the same time he was using customs and border protection to do peacekeeping operations.
Therein lies the issue with Crying Wolf.
When the real US Secret Police is established next year, the alarm will already have been sounded and will therefore be less effective.
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*Invasion --------> liberate
We already have that one. It's true too. They'll liberate you back into the stone ages. They'll liberate you so hard, your great grandchildren will still feel the pain of it.
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"Are we the baddies?" Well, for a lot of people all over the world you're at least not the good ones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States