easy pull both levers
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According to transit and transport regulation, such scenario would be impossible
Unlike the classic prisoners dilemma, this isn't a nash equilibrium. When I know that the other person pulls their switch, I'd improve my outcome by not pulling mine. Compare to the prisoners dilemma, where not snitching when the other side snitches earns you five years in prison.
Yell to the other lever dude that I'm not pulling the lever but fuck those beige dudes, hope they can't tell i'm lying, run and lay down with the beige dudes, and if I'm lucky they pull their lever too and we get maximum carnage. If lever dude suspects I'm lying and insane, and thus doesn't pull their lever, at least I won't have to answer my loved ones' questions.
To quote something I made up and say all the time, “It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose.”
nice. with such wisdom you should have been a captain or something.
Please learn how to draw basic sketches of railway switches. It's not that hard.
Philosphers really just go "imagine how fucked up it would be if..." and then take it incredibly seriously
Yell to the guy on the other side that I'm going to pull the lever, so he'd better not.
Then let it go because that both maximizes global utility and poses the lowest risk of the worst case scenario.
Sounds like your typical game theory problem.
Not pulling the lever: Worst case: Your loved ones dies Best case: None
Pulling the lever: Worst case: Your loved ones dies Best case: Your loved ones survives
Worst case for pulling the lever is 5 loved ones die and so do 8 strangers.
Its stated that when not pulling the lever the loved ones on the cart to survive (with ptsd).
Highest risk/best reward vs No risk/minimal loss.
nah you forgot my solution of also lying down on the track and daring the trolley to switch the track itself
I guess I didn't read the problem properly.
wow what an excellent day in the neighbourhood
i sure hope I won't be faced with an ethical dilemma in the very near future
This was super funny, this person has a great career ahead of her. Very Tim and Eric style obscure indie comedy, I loved it.
Veritasium did a great video on the prisoners dilemma... What Game Theory Reveals about Life, The Universe, and Everything Prof. Robert Axelrod held a tournament in 1980 to produce a computer program to explore the prisoners dilemma... Axelrod's Tournament
Goddamn it, Joker
Which loved one are we talking about here? Some are more loved than others.
Which relative is on the track and which in the trolley?
Your hot cousin is on the track. What would you do?
Don't pull the lever, then there's three thirds of hot cousin to go around regardless of the other person's decision. Philosophy is easy.
Easy there Solomon
cut the trolley in half, give one half to each of the thirds of the hot cousin
It says loved ones I'm afraid, can't sacrifice one in prison I'm afraid.
What do I do? I introduce myself to the other person, then we go out for drinks, then we fuck all night.
We no longer give a shit about the assholes on the tracks.
This feels too high quality for a shit post.
Gotta make sure your fiber intake is decent so you get good quality shit like this
You pull the lever, then pew pew pew the other person near the lever.
Boom.
Did I solve it?
Where's my prize?
Wait a minute, gotta shoot everyone else related too. Don't want to face any revenge.
Automatic Weaponry goes brrrr
No witnesses
Okay I saved 1 of my loved ones.
Bingo?
Now theres only one color of people.
Wait am I a racist?
Give the loved ones guns
I think the premise falls apart on the assumption that I consider pulling the lever as best case.
If these are tracks in the US then I just understaff the engineers and maintenance teams and the train derails before I have to make a decision, checkmate.
Throw the trolley off the side of the ferry.
and here. we. go
Nuke it from orbit.
👍 It's the only way to be sure
I would tie a really really long string to the lever and attach the string to a large bird and then scare it into flying away. Then I would eat some delicious Heinz Baked Beans
And where are their arms and legs?
amputee representation. don't make it weird.
They didn't keep them inside the car at all times.
Questions: why doesn't the person at the switch run and get the person off the tracks? And the people on the trolley hop off or try to the sslow the trolley?
something something about conservation of momentum, them jumping off speeds up the trolley
They are tied to their chair with the only thing they can do being flipping the lever. It is the prisoner’s trolley problem
I think this exposes the sadism of philosophy the past few hundred years.
Often, it’s been some rich idle folks making up murderous fantasies in their heads while looking down at my ancestors . “Oh, you don’t know page 273 of Aristotle’s rejoinder? Haha, you must be too poor”.