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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago

increase prices

people have to pay more money

How has no one thought of this

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The tipping culture is very rooted in Americans. I was at restaurant in Europe and there was a customer (certainly American). He ate during 30 minutes or less, the waiter was nice but he wasn't doing it for tips and the customer only saw him when he ordered the food and at payment. The prices are high end.

When he paid he was surprised that there was no tipping options (unfortunately we started seeing them in some European countries) and asked him to pay another 10€ as a tip.

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 1 day ago (17 children)

European here. Tipping is not already included in the price of the meal. Living wage is included in the price of the meal.

Tips is completely voluntary, if you think the service was excellent then you really just round up to the nearest nice round number (something like 22.85 becomes 25)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Tipping is not already included in the price of the meal. Living wage is included in the price of the meal.

That is the tip. In the US, "tipped" labor often has a reduced minimum wage, under the expectation that they make the difference up in tips.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My guy/gal/pal.

We do things differently in different parts of Europe.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

You’re right, I made the same mistake as OP. There is no “European system of tipping”.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago

i you mean it, tip 10-15% of the bill! (often the "living wage" is still precarious.)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To add to that I'd say there's no drama attached to not leaving a tip.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Totally, waiters don’t expect a tip at all. So if it’s given, it’s appreciated even more.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

There's literally no profit? Like aside from already running a successful restaurant (hard), doing this will earn the business owner no extra income.

It is still based af because then the wait staff gets paid a lot more

[–] [email protected] 181 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Tipping culture should die.

I'd rather have meals on the menu be what I pay. Include tax, service fees, and other garbage fees.

I went to Japanese restaurant in NYC. They took my card and they returned it. I asked about the tip. They said it was all included. Fucking dream.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They took my card and they returned it

Welcome to 2000 ? I cant remember the last time i carried a card, wtf.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Waiters are against it as they may get way more than if they were paid by the owner. Also they automatically get raises when menu prices increases.

What blows my mind is that American do tip everywhere and also give cash to some workers at the end of the year (mail man, garbage man,.. Etc).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Waiters are against it as they get way more than if they were paid by the owner.

They're not against it, and they don't.

Source: was waiter for a decade

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you are paid $15/h that is 20% of $75. Don't you think that the clients you will serve will pay way more than that during an hour?

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You must have been paid very well as a waiter to do better than tips.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not being an American the whole idea of not including tax in the stated price just seems so alien. You expect me to work out what 12.5% of my bill is on the fly as I'm shopping? Fuck you, that's your job. You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out

Also they would only have to do it once per item, shoppers have to do it every time!

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Also "They took my card". That is apparently an American thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hell we still sign a receipt an we only just got them chips recently

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Do you guys still do the hilarious chip & sign thing or have you finally switched to using a PIN?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You think that's hilarious? There are a lot of places in the world that still do a manual shhk-shhk of a card only a few years ago. Now that most cards don't have raised digits, they'll write it down. If they even take a card.

Places where the Internet goes down if it rains and there is no mobile service. Imagine the horror.

The other side of the coin - paying with debit (which has a pin) is stupid in the US. Unless you can't control your spending, credit card is the way to go for every legal purchase you don't mind being tied to you forever. CCs have far superior consumer protection than the law.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is a korean place I love in a city in a neighboring state. Worth driving over an hour to get that sweet sweet meal with tax and tip included in the menu price

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thia is where you should name and praise the restaurant

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

All hail Kermit, the Japanese restaurant

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