Don't mind me. I'm the weirdo that legit loves being a parent.
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Shocked you haven't been downvoted a ton. Lemmy really hates anyone who wants to have children.
I downvote broad generalizations
I'll try not to generalize broads then
Living that DINK life and still having trouble keeping out of debt. I can't imagine having to cover for kids, too.
choosing
Is doing so much heavy lifting in that headline.
Might as well be "More Titanic passengers choosing life rafts to ocean liners"
Because we can't afford our own lives, how are we supposed to support children? Not even taking into account for how absolutely fucked we all are. Our planet is dying, how can we bring children into this world if it's all falling apart?
But you can't forget that your children can save the planet, if your generation won't.
My parents set the house on fire, I'm looking for a fire extinguisher, and some newsie wants me to know that if I just had kids they could grow up to be firemen.
I don't think that's what is being said at all. I think what's being said is that if the future belongs to the next generation, it's in all of our interests that intelligent and responsible people do not simply give up and allow the idiots to dominate the future. In other words, we all have a stake in the coming generations and simply opting out because we find it somehow inconvenient is not a moral decision.
This is not to say that we all need to have kids, but rather, is to say that we shouldn't necessarily fault those who do choose to have them. Again, if the children are our future, it would be nice if at least some of them were raised by responsible, intelligent and well-educated parents.
intelligent and responsible people do not simply give up and allow the idiots to dominate the future
That would ring truer if not spoken by an idiot who dominates the present. CNBC is replete with these know-nothing goobers, and even assuming I bought in to their selective breeding strategy for repopulation after the apocolypse, I sure as hell wouldn't endorse their target audience to handle the job.
This is not to say that we all need to have kids, but rather, is to say that we shouldn’t necessarily fault those who do choose to have them
That's fair on its face, but more as a practical consequence. At some point you have to ask, what would we even do about people having more kids than we'd like. And the answers - from trying to shame them by screaming at them to doing old school Nixon-era sterilizations of whole populations - are incredibly grim and gross.
it would be nice if at least some of them were raised by responsible, intelligent and well-educated parents
If you want responsible, intelligent, and well-educated parents tomorrow, you're going to need to house and feed and educate and generally provide quality of life for kids today.
But we hate kids today. That's why, despite the economy growing at a steady clip for the last 20 years, we're at record high child poverty with 1 in 5 kids living in poverty in the 40 richest countries. The current generation does not want to pay money to see them grow up health, strong, and capable.
Given the poor treatment they've received, why would Zoomers be expected to have lots of kids of their own? They have known nothing but declining standards of living, with a promise of worse to come.
Man, fuck them negative votes. Humans do best understand pressure. We need humans to solve this crisis because, humans manufactured it. We make more humans and roll the dice.
Humans do best understand pressure.
Pure selection bias. You primarily hear about the humans who did well under pressure, because the humans that didn't do well rarely make for popular reading material.
We make more humans and roll the dice.
I would argue that by the time a child born today is old enough to participate in the solution, the dice will have already landed. Either they'll be living in a city/country/planet whose prior generation has positioned themselves to preserver, or they'll be dying in one whose prior generation didn't.
Having more kids won't solve the problem. We've got 8B people already. One more or less won't tip the scales.
Not having more kids won't solve the problem, either. So no point in getting mad at folks who did choose to have children.
Kids? In this economy?
Optimised into genocide.
If I had to redo my life, that's what I'd do.
Don't ever tell your children that.
Definitely not if they're young / stupid enough to take it personally!
There will never be a time in which your children are cool with you telling them that you wished they'd never been born
I kind of disagree, I would completely understand if my parents said that. Maybe it's because the math is so clear to me.
Same. I was born five months after they were married. I know I was an accident and that I financially taxed them as a baby. Saying "I regret having you" doesn't have to mean they regret having you so much as when or how they did. I bet my folks would have liked to wait, lol
My wife finally are in a point where we can afford to have children, but we are kinda getting a bit old to have children. So we are also choosing the dual income no children life style,
But a big part of that is our age and how long it took to get to a comfortable place financially.
Now we want to focus on saving for a house and retirement.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point.
Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest
the fastest reproduced in greater numbers than the rest,
a process which had once favoured the noblest traits of man,
now began to favour different traits.
Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest
the fastest reproduced in greater numbers than the rest,
That is a misunderstanding of natural selection. Natural selection means the most efficient ways to live in your ecological niche have been selected for.
Sloths are not counter to natural selection. They're not fast or smart or strong. What they are is well-adapted to live in their environment.
It's from the movie Idiocracy. Which is more of a documentary at this point.