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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

When are we going to talk about African wars?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When the US starts being the primary funder of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

There isn’t any difference between American arms and israeli arms

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's actually China and Russia who's funding them currently.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I'm pretty sure it's just Trump breaking the world order and eroding the freedom of Americans.

When the Israel-Hamas war is over do you really think everything is going to go back to normal in the US and the rest of the world?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Read the article. The most egregious violations occurred during the Biden administration. Biden is better at Trump as a whole, but on the Gaza issue, both have support for Israel locked in at 100%. People often fall for the marketing - Biden virtue signals while Trump vice signals. Biden made a few token show gestures towards Palestinian rights, and Trump gleefully celebrates his cruelty. But in terms of actual tangible support for Israel? Trump's record is a direct continuation of Biden's. The Biden admin for example were the first ones to propose the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. That isn't something Trump came up with - he just vice signaled with his stupid 'Gaza riviera' plan, while Biden's plan for ethnic cleansing was discussed quietly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Could you source the statement about biden's quiet discussion?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

The complicity of many national governments in this genocide, including my own (Canada), will be remembered with disdain.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Myopic US take. The Israel lobby is all through the western world and has pushed almost every government into the corner of accepting this racist genocidal war lest they be labelled anti-Semitic.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is it? I don't even hear anything out of the Arab states. It should but I don't see much.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

the Mayans missed it by like ... 15 years

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Idk. Seems like this was occurring in 2012 too.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-188596/

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In repression of counter speech against genocide in almost all western countries to some degree their hand has been shown once again to be prioritizing order over law's rotting corpse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not order. It's control and oppression, a tale as old as mankind.

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