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Eighty national public health groups, including the American Heart Association, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American College of Preventative Medicine, placed a full-page ad in Sunday’s edition of the Washington Post in support of a federal ban on menthol in cigarettes and all flavored cigars.

“The answer is clear,” the full-page ad says. “Saving lives starts by ending the sale of menthol cigarettes and all flavored cigars.

“Smoking kills nearly half a million people in the United States each year, and these addictive, deadly products are a big part of the problem. The FDA and White House have our full support to release lifesaving rules prohibiting menthol cigarettes and all flavored cigars.”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have maybe a cigar a month. Sometimes, a nice dipped cigar is enjoyable. It’d be a shame to just outright ban them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tobacco is fucking horrible, but Menthol and other flavorings make it so much worse. They increase the likelihood of addiction massively.

And is always the case in public health, you don't put in rules to cater to the edge cases, you put in rules to protect the majority affected.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me you're not a smoker without telling me you're not a smoker.

You clearly have no idea how tobacco addiction works.

Prohibition doesn't work. Mind your own fucking business.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can tell that you're addicted just by the vitriol in your response here.

Did you start of menthols and other flavored tobacco? Because that's how a lot of people start. Which is why people are pushing for a ban, so others won't be as hopelessly addicted as you are.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck you.

It's my choice.

Mind your own fucking business you fucking asshole.

Here, childhood obesity is a MUCH larger issue than smoking.

Go ban all the artificial flavorings that are in all of the different bowls of sugar, ahem, breakfast cereals, that are shamefully aimed at children in an effort to give them diabetes, just leave the aisle full of plain rasin bran.

Do that and I'll believe it's about health and the kids and not simply a power trip controlling another person's choices.

A lifetime of doctors visits, insulin vials, insulin pumps, blood sugar meters, etc are bleeding this country FAR more than 80 year olds with lung cancer (that probably wasnt even caused by the tobacco).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In places where healthcare is vaguely civilized, your unhealthy addiction becomes my business because it comes with negative social externalities in the form of additional cost and strain on a public health service.

Edit: Spelling

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Doesn't sound very civilized at all.

Sounds judgy, controlling, biased, and miserable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When are we going to start banning flavored alcohol like White Claw and Mike's while we're at it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't joke this into existence

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It worked out so well the last time we tried.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Menthol and other flavoured cigarettes were banned in the EU years ago, and I don't recall much of a fuss, not sure why this would be an issue in the US.

My experience was that long time smokers weren't the ones smoking menthol and other weird stuff, it was mostly kids that didn't like tobacco.