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The fediverse used to feel pretty anti-ai, but over the past month or two I've noticed a LOT of generated memes and images, and they tend to have positive votes.

Has there been a sudden culture shift here? Or is there a substantial percentage of people just unable to tell the difference anymore?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I honestly don't see much from the comms I follow (and it's a lot thanks to piefed topics), and when I do browse all, if I find a post from a comm that allows them, I either ignore it or block the comm, for example a genAI art comms.

Idk, lemmy, mbin, piefed, etc isn't reddit with algorithms so it's kind of on the user if they see a lot of it, IMO.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've noticed a LOT of generated memes and they tend to have positive votes

What's the issue with that one in particular? Isn't the entire point of a meme just whether it's funny or not?

I mean, they're low effort and unoriginal to begin with. The AI isn't really changing anything about that.

I feel like memes is one of the few places where AI doesn't hurt anyone at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It's annoying that people are downvoting you just for asking an honest question. I think the anti-ai sentiment is strong enough that in many communities, people just oppose it in any context. The arguments I usually see against using ai are:

  1. It takes business away from actual human artists
  2. It takes a lot of energy, thereby contributing to climate change
  3. It is a privacy concern

All are real concerns, but I agree that making memes should be an effectively harmless use of it even if you otherwise oppose it. 1 and 3 aren't really applicable to your average meme. 2 could apply depending on how you measure it, but most of the cost of ai is from training, not generation. For someone using the tool and not developing it, that training is a sunk cost they are not responsible for. I've seen estimates that you can generate about 9 images with the energy it takes to fully charge a phone. I think that's more than worth it if you share it with a few other people to enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

John Oliver did a show on this recently, in summary: "not all AI is spam, but all spam is AI". My take, legitimate accounts with a long history are cheap to generate, they're a great purchase to help spread bad faith disinformation and look legit. It's a business model.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Many people don't care about it. Me included, for instance.

I would give the reason why but I don't know if anyone is truly interested in knowning.

I don't consider things being made by AI as something terrible. If the post is fine I upvote and comment like any other post. If the content is lazy, clickbaity or plain bad then it's bad. But if it's good I don't care that it was produced using some AI tool or other.

It's true that the fediverse it's still hostile towards AI conversation (this very comment have high possibilities to be drowned with downvotes) but I'm glad the general stance is changing little by little. I hope in a few years the hostility would be much more marginal, specially if the fediverse keeps growing and more people with more diverse opinions come in.

I like to talk about topics, seeing different opinions about it, and when everyone have the same opinion the discussion is not really interesting. With AI, it's something new that sparks a lot of though process about may topic. For instance the morality of it, or the limits, trying to find the gray areas between the black and the white. It can be very interesting, and I'm glad, little by little we can start talking about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Most people like me don't care especially if the post is supposed to be a shitpost

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People don't care. as long as they can get their infinite scroll with funny picture, they're happy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This brings up an excellent point about addiction. A ~~quick~~ longer than I'd planned anecdote: over the last few years I've nearly completely dumped all social media (and big tech in general). Facebook, Insta, Twitter, all gone. The only social for the last few years I've had left was Reddit, and I dumped that a couple months ago (all social media is toxic, I learned).

I swapped Reddit for Lemmy a few months ago and noticed a huge difference, not just the fewer toxic people, but in the lack of posts overall by comparison. I found myself scrolling through the same Lemmy posts throughout the day, my brain trying to repeat the cycle from Reddit, but stayed strong and didn't go back to Reddit haha.

Anyway, there's still toxicity on Lemmy, and I realized how much it affects me without the cloud of all the other socials bogging it down. Not a lot, but enough. So I made a decision and went back to my old nerd days. I didn't want to miss out on legit articles I was interested in from social media so I set up an rss reader. I started checking out Lemmy in the morning, and my rss throughout the day, which doesn't update often.

What I found at first was I was re-checking lemmy, re-loading rss, and thinking about what else I can put on my phone to scratch that itch. I was (am) still addicted to the dopamine hit of forever-feeds of useless garbage. So instead, I picked up a book. It's been a long time, and it's a slow adjustment, but wow is it ever so much better. Aside from some small interaction on Lemmy in the morning like this, I don't see comments anymore, I read the info I'm interested in reading and make my own judgments without comments trying to sway me, and use my former doom-scrolling time to read a book.

To sum up, you're absolutely right. Addiction is a bitch and the average person doesn't even realize they're addicted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was never big in most social medias except YouTube and Discord until recently where I have to be as im an adult and it's expected for you to. It really made me realize Lemmy is WAY less toxic than others and it's very rare online to have a meaningful conversation with someone.
for example on Instagram there was a joke post by a pretty lady that said "my boyfriend just paid to get his tires rotated, doesn't he know that his tires rotated every time he drives?", obvious satire. but the comments were ALL insulting the lady calling her a bimbo and shit. Like genuinely people there won't read a comment longer than 2 sentences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah most comments sections are cesspools that only feed the negative wolf inside us. It's interesting that now that I've cut out most comment sections, I realize how absolutely tiring it is being a part of them, or just reading them.

Lemmy is pretty good overall, but I really am starting to love just a basic RSS feed. Looks like what I'm used to (Lemmy/Reddit) but only links to articles, no comments at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

A lot of people are some combination of lazy, stupid, ignorant, and/or indifferent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Is this post AI generated?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i wish there were a client available that would simply hide all image posts because i really hate memes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In Jerboa I know you can change posts from Card to List, which will get rid of the large pictures and make them a small image off to the right, maybe your client has something similar? Not sure if there is another option that might mold it more to your liking.

Vs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Be the change you want to see

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

thank you Gandhi satva I would like to make a pull request to Sync if the source code were available

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