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Note: Original report by Bloomberg, article by Reuters proxied by Neuters to bypass paywall.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

Google: Sure, we'll sell it to anyone who pays off our Russian Govt fine.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

What Lemmy client do you use?

I am asking because it caught my attention that you didn't upvote your own comment.

Also, funny reference ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

This seems like a sensible consumer protection to not let the ad company control the biggest web browser. I won't hold my breath, but I'm glad they are trying something.

AWS should also be split from Amazon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

I think this is something even Elon Musk could get behind.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Chrome isn't even developed by anyone but Google.

Oh, the DOJ is ran by idiots, my bad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 56 minutes ago

What? The fact it's owned & developed by Google is the whole point

This is how the DOJ is planning to approach dismantling Google's illegal monopoly, by breaking chrome - the world's most used browser - away from them

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They are going to ask a judge like they have no fucking balls.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago (1 children)

It's called "Distribution of Power".
We should be thankful it's still here.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 minutes ago

Distribution of power into corporate hands. Oh, im willing to bet it is here to stay.

[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

[Google controls how people view the internet]

This doesn't quite make sense. How does Chrome "control how people view the internet"? Isn't html/css the main thing that controls how people view the internet?

[ and what ads they see in part through its Chrome browser, which typically uses Google search,]

But it is trivial to change your default search agent right?

Is this move something we should view as a good thing, and if so, then why?

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Chrome has a massive market share and Google abuses that market share by breaking web standards, and pushing people towards Chrome because "the competition doesn't work".

They act in bad faith and abuse their position to more deeply entrench their position in anticompetitive monopolistic ways.

That's the Crux of it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking up monopolies is a good thing, and Google arguably holds too much power. Chromium is being used in 70% of browsers, and the decision how to implement and develop web standards are all in the hand of one for profit company, which had little interest in keeping things open and accessible (and private).

A quote from this Register article sums it up nicely:

What we are forced to assume in turn is that Chrome is built by the professional developers working for an ad agency with the primary goal of building a web browser that serves the needs of other professional developers working for the ad agency's prospective clients.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Chromium is being used in 70% of browsers

To me, I don't think that should be an issue in anything. That's up to browser makers. They are able to use whatever they want, and they will use whatever is easiest/best for their usage. They are also free to use WebKit (Safari's engine), Gecko (Mozilla), or roll their own. This just sounds like you want to punish someone because they made something everyone preferred just because everyone preferred it.

It's different when you are "forced" to use it (use ours or we won't let you on our devices, like iOS, or use ours and we will lower/cut our fees for other things you want/need, like many different companies). But when the public is truly free to use what they want and they all want the same thing, then it shouldn't be used as a reason to punish them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Essentially, everything is Chrome, Firefox or Safari.

Brave, Edge etc are chrome.

Most people are using chrome.

Google controlling chrome controls what the vast majority of people use to see the internet, and then they change chrome to make it harder for you to block ads that they want to show.

There's no reason for chrome to break ad blockers unless it's owned by an ad company.

Edit: Google done some other shady things by owning it in the past as well.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Steam, Spotify, Discord. Whoops, all Chromium.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

LoL they won't, even if they buy it for 1 trillion dollar

[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If this happens, I'd be interested in seeing how this effects ChromeOS. I don't use it but my mom does.

Also, if you're confused as to why ChromeOS would be effected, while it's based on Gentoo Linux, ChromeOS uses a modified version of Chrome as it's Desktop Environment.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Yes I would like to know what that means for ChromeOS and Chromebooks. If the new "Chrome" company got ChromeOS also that would be huge. But if that is not a requirement Google could just put another Chromium browser in ChromeOS. They could also continue to sell Chromebooks but based on a ChromiumOS fork.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Its based on debian now :(

Depending on what version

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

According to Wikipedia, it's still based on Gentoo, it just uses Debian for running Linux applications in Crostini.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh go figure, my bad :P

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

HA!

What a joke.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

What if Linux foundation buys Chrome?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 59 minutes ago

Do they have the money? What is the value of Chrome anyways, if you can't do monopoly things with it? About as much as Firefox?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

They already have Servo.

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