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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

The problem isn't that they exploded one time. The problem is that that one explosion is still happening and likely will be for quite a while.

On the other hand, modern rock exploding plant designs are so much better that it's very unlikely to repeat itself, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Paraphrased but this is right.

And the people were taught to talk about the horrible nuclear accidents that killed a few but completely glance over the unimaginable millions perished in the name of oil, mustn't even mention the mass extinction events we launched with oil.

We even spread exaggerated bullshit about radiation mutation (wtf? thats superhero comic books fiction!!) and cancer rates (only one really), ignoring how much overwhelmingly more of the both we get from fossil fuel products.

We are like prehistoric people going extinct bcs of the tales how generations ago someone burned down their house so fire bad. Well, actually not like that - we are taking with us a lot of species & entire ecosystems too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

“Ted Kennedy killed more people than Three Mile Island” - Bumper sticker.

That’s said, I facepalm at Fukushima. And desperately want more modern systems

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

arent we out of uranium by 2040 anyway? op can have our "nucular" waste anytime. why even waste time on a resource that we cant use in 15 yrs from now? super stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago
  1. No

  2. Because #1 is no

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Hand them over, I can still use those Uranium rods as dildos.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

For huge countries as like the US: Maybe. You have enough space to also store the trash somewhere for thousands of years.

For small countries, like most of Europe, where the population density is way higher: hard pass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Storage isn't that much of a problem, even in smol Europe countries.

Also it's contained in specific areas, some nerds are bound to wanna reuse what we now think of as trash/spent fuel. If it's still radioactive after it just means it radiates energy, we just didn't commercially learned how to harness it. There are ongoing studies into that too.

And radiation isn't as problematic as we are taught by media - humans lived in Chernobyl exclusion zone until death by old age, mammals there are thriving. The dangers of radiation are immediate tissue damage or thyroid cancer (again via tissue damage) if iodine isn't taken by exposed people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

Those same countries that found space for all the rest of their industrial waste?

Nuclear waste has a tiny footprint. Fence off a couple square km for security, dig a small but deep hole, and there ya go.

Obviously oversimplifying, but the point is that nuclear waste is a tiny issue. The entire world's waste could be stored in a single warehouse if we wanted to (we don't).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

iirc nuclear waste isn't really that big of an issue anymore, they just drill a really deep hole that's like a foot across and nobody will ever see it again

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You're right to reject the logic behind that because it's nonsense. Its not making sense to them because they still presume some kind of good faith when it come to these sorts of things.

The reason we haven't built more nuclear power stations is because oil, gas and coal companies will make less money, if we build more nuclear power stations.

They have the means, the motive and they have a well recorded history of being that cartoonishly villainous. Nothing else makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Three Mile Island and Chernobyl really did change things. Prior to those incidents there were plans to build over 50 more nuclear plants in place which got canceled as a result. Currently oil and gas industries will do all they can to keep nuclear from making a come back, but for a long time they didn't have to do shit thanks to those catastrophes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

They didn't have to but they did anyway.

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