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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Checks and balances wasn't about avoiding fascism.

It was to make sure all three branches of governments stayed in power over the body politic.

And they still are in power.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago

When I was growing up, they told us the US was the greatest country in the world. Now that I'm older, I realize it's one of the worst in the Western world in nearly every statistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Chink in that armor was allow people without education, attention, and just plain common sense to vote

[–] [email protected] 2 points 28 minutes ago

Sounds like you agree with Plato. It makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair we were lied to growing up. Be nice to others and santa.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I'd believe it when I see it

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe it's time you guys rewrote your constitution into something more modern instead of treating the old one as a holy scripture handed down from Olympus.

But I doubt that'll ever happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

Now is definitely not the time to rewrite the constitution. Could you imagine what the powers that be would do to it?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is about to rewrite our Constitution, just not the way it should be written.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

If he does, at least it'll show that it can be rewritten.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 hours ago

A lot of people are being shown that a lot of stuff that kept their country going was decorum, shame and tradition, not rule of law.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Regulatory capture and citizens united both exist to undo those checks and balances. No system is immune to corruption.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Interestingly the US system was always more vulnerable to corruption, and everyone knew it. Our executive branch is far too powerful. That’s why when the US has engaged in nation building they never install governments like ours. Germany, Japan, Iraq, etc. the pentagon always insists on a parliamentary system, because they’re better in every way (less prone to grid lock, less prone to tyranny of the minority, weaker executive, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

America was built on the ideas of freedom and equality by slave owners who didn't think women should be allowed to vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

But they got it started and we changed some things. We just didn't change enough, or perhaps changed the wrong things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Don’t forget they were also terrified of democracy. The Senate is one of the most comically anti-democratic institutions ever concocted. Wyoming has as much power as California. I mean it beggars belief that anyone but a complete imbecile could agree to something like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The founding fathers were correct. A pure democracy is also known as mob rule. Anytime you can get 51% to agree with you, you can do whatever you like.

If 51% vote to take the homes of black people, that's decided and done.

Which is why modern democracies are all some form of representative democracy. Which in theory is supposed to act as a sort of check and balance on the system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's not democratic from a person level, but it is more democratic from a state level. At the time they hadn't quite figured out if they wanted to be a country or a collection of states that sometimes work together.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

The first two political parties were formed around that very debate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

I mean, they did give an earnest try at preventing a king from happening, and it did work for a couple hundred years.