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Baby red panda dies due to 'stress caused by fireworks,' renewing calls to ban their public sale (abcnews.go.com)

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A baby red panda named Roxie at the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland died from “stress caused by fireworks” after choking on her vomit, just days after her mother’s sudden death.

The incident, occurring around the U.K.’s Bonfire Night celebrations, has led to renewed calls for stricter fireworks regulations.

A petition with over a million signatures urging restrictions on public fireworks sales was submitted to the U.K. government.

Edinburgh recently implemented limited fireworks control zones, but animal welfare advocates argue for broader measures to prevent similar tragedies.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Man, people really do love their fireworks... Noise, light and pollution, Yay!

I wonder how many of you guys complain about cars for the same reasons...

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

So the zoo loses 2 red pandas in a couple days and instead of investigating the conditions of their care, they blame it on the public being loud?

There are easy ways to protect your pets from fireworks noise so this stinks of scapegoating for their own terrible care.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Also, why ban something when you can just have area bans?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Has the mother also died from early Fireworks? Since when do fireworks cause vomiting...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Stress can cause vomiting, hell it can cause it in humans!

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

I'm dubious. Mom dies suddenly, then baby dies suddenly after choking on it's own vomit. Yeah, no, let's blame the fireworks. Surely, nothing else could be the cause of Red Panda deaths at this zoo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Whether or not it was the direct cause in this case, fireworks cause a lot of animals a lot of stress and deaths do come from it.

I don't see why anyone needs to be able to buy explosives to use at home, firework shows should be organised in set locations and should use low noise fireworks as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I had a whole thing earlier but was mistaken, the baby was 3 months old not a newborn. Either way, I still don't doubt that fireworks could easily stress out a very young animal and be the tipping point of their health.

I'm not sure what could motivate them to make a grand conspiracy against fireworks, rather than the more likely result of them being exhausted and frustrated caretakers who, like any pet owner, probably spent that evening trying to calm the panda down only to watch it panic until it died. Stress vomiting isn't really rare for animals on the 4th of July. It's just the extreme end of stress.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not saying that it's a conspiracy against fireworks, but possibly a problem with the habitat, food, or something else that would cause big issues for the zoo if discovered. The fireworks were convenient. I have zero evidence for this other than the fact that a lot of zoos are complete cesspools, and so I typically don't trust "suddenly died" followed three days later by another "suddenly died" regardless of how many fireworks were launched off.

Also, there is this line:

Roxie had access to her den but the frightening noises seem to have been too much for her.

Seems like the zoo just left a weak animal to suffer instead of taking precautions to assure that the panda was placed in a safe location. It makes me doubt that anyone was even there, and that the zookeepers returned the following day to a dead red panda and tried to cover it up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

That's fair, I definitely jumped to the "they wanna take away fireworks" conspiracy on my end, too much arguing on the Internet for me this week >.<

I do hope they look into it. I just know how freaked out my pets have been in the past, inconsolable at times, so the fireworks being a real factor wouldn't surprise me. I'd hope they would have meds to help calm the animals, but I wonder if they were too young for them, or had a dosage issue.