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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ben Shapiro is a hypocritical piece of shit. Sorry that might not be relevant.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Nah, that's always relevant

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Luckily, the process of repealing or changing an amendment likely won’t change anytime soon, even with a Republican trifecta at the federal level, as it requires overwhelming public support. As outlined in Article 5 of the Constitution, any such change requires at least two-thirds of the Senate and the House to agree on the modification, with that change then requiring ratification by a minimum of three-quarters of states in the nation.

I wouldn't be so confident. If the majority decides to ignore it, then a constitution suddenly holds very little weight. Remember how the Roman Empire was once a Republic, until someone decided it wasn't anymore? Remember how 1930s Germany was a democracy, until someone decided that had to end?

Trump might argue some weird logic regarding the 22nd and 12th amendment. Or he might just declare a state of national emergency because of a new migrant caravan or some such shit, and postpone elections indefinitely. If he tries anything of the sort, it will all come down to whose side the military is on.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What happens if they declare all democrats are enemies of the state and remove them from office and put their people in?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You’ll probably get to find out in January 😊 that’s kind of the whole plan

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Project Gilead.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

ITS NOT A "JOKE" AND NEVER FUCKING HAS BEEN

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The god king...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

It wasn't a joke.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

It's not a joke, you fucking idiot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

dictators dont steal or take control. its handed to them.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (5 children)

He is 78, in awful health, and has no interest in a legacy or supporting a successor. He keeps everyone around him at odds and maintains enough infighting that no clear heir apparent could really show up.

So like, he really only will hold power long enough to make everything terrible. So we got that goin for us.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

But the damage was done, and Rome had a civil war over whether it would go back to being a Republic like it had been or if it would have an autocratic ruler. Obviously, the latter won out.

A lesson from history.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

So you're saying he was dictator for life? 😂

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let's not lump Trump in with Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar was a war hero and a capable leader who's final crimes were giving out citizenship and housing.

Trump's final crimes will be giving all our state secrets to every other government in the world and obliterating our infrastructure.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have so many lessons from history to pull from right now that you would need multiple professors to explain them all and yet they were all ignored.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Well, we're going to see plenty of new crimes in the next 4 years, and Trump is going to be motivated to stay out of jail if it's even still remotely possible. I think he's going to do everything he can to stay president until he's actually dead or incapacitated.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, when trump dies his "movement" explodes. They won't consolidate around one, and trump would never have a clear successor because then he risks everyone siding with them.

MAGA ain't a movement it's a person.

When he's gone the knives come out and the party will balkanize itself

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wish I had your optimism

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The only right way to be an optimist about the big picture is to make sure you're ready for when shit goes sideways on the day to day stuff.

For instance a big silver lining about four years of trump, this is one of the few scenarios people stay politically engaged after the election, thru the midterms, and onto 2028.

Republicans have the Oval, the House, and the Senate. There is not much they can do that people will blame on Dems.

Historically he'll lose House or Senate in two years. Hopefully both, but ideally the Senate. There's benefits to the other way around too tho.

Adjust your timescale you're looking at this with. 4 years ain't long, two years ain't shit. Think of all the fucked up horrible shit we've done as a country. Realize that even if things get worse then they ever been in America (incredibly unlikely) we've bounced back before and we'll bounce back eventually again.

This is going to suck.

But 20 years from now we might look back on this as the last speed bump before we finally fixed our political system. Empires burn down all the time, but ash makes fertile soil.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You would think they would figure it out right? It's not a joke.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

You'd think, but then 75 or so million people either didn't, or wanted this.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not really.. This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.

Last time it was still a misguided presidency.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

in the 10 minutes of the Rogan interview I could stomach he talked about how surreal it all was, how it was a joke, he didn't want to be a politician, and he didn't expect to win.

He was expecting it this time and he knows what he can get away with.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It could be that simple. He didn't realize the potential the first time around and so many things got in the way, including a disaster that tried to force a leadership role on him. This time enough was changed and built up to prevent the obstacles, and he not only can avoid justice for his past, but he can, in his own words, "do anything and they'll let you."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

When you're a demagogue, they let you do it. I just grab the country by the pussy, I don't wait.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hear ya, but I mean he 'joked' about it before this election too.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That was a reference to Armageddon.

Evangelicals want him to make it happen.

**Downvote all you want. It's a fact.

Paula white, member of NAR, and trumps white house spiritual advisor said trump, and I fucking quote:

'will play a critical role in Armageddon as the United States stands alongside Israel in the battle against Islam."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

If only there were just one example instead likely over 10

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget when he praised Xi Jinping for removing term limits and suggested he might do the same https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-praises-chinese-president-extending-tenure-for-life-idUSKCN1GG03P/

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I saw a comment from a conservative recently who was hoping that Trump would create term limits for congress. Like, how delusional can you be?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He's also just explicitly said that he wants to be a dictator, but that apparently isn't a turn-off for much of his base, and in fact many of them see it as a positive: https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72

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