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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I no longer work with corporations, but an online ornithology classI did used teams. It worked, mostly, for a while. Then one day it decided that video would no longer work on my machine. Of course there's no obvious log or anything.

I even booted windows to see if it would fix it, but no.

That was on a very exotic yoga 7 pro laptop.

It's the only piece of software that's ever behaved that way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Out of curiosity are any similar products actually good? My company uses Webex and frankly I'd rather use teams.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

My company switched from WebEx to Teams and while Teams is not great it's way better than WebEx.

Within my actual team we just use Slack Huddles unless we have to record. For my personal stuff I prefer Jitsi.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I dont know.. SharePoint has pissed me the hell off too, its a close one

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact, teams backend is sharepoint. It's just a fancy wrapper on top 🤡

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Well now I just feel bad for the team behind teams 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I can’t believe we still can’t moderate chat in a public webinar…. « Hey the guy who wrote ‘FUCK’ 20 times? Yeah you can kick him out, but make sure to keep these messages visible for all posterity »

Can’t send private messages to outsiders also. Who could EVER need this in a public event anyway?

And make sure you can’t let people join the breakout room of their choice. Take the time to individually assign them one by one before the meeting! Fun!!

Hey at least we can play Backgammon in a meeting, so there’s that right?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As if there's a single lead developer behind MS Teams. There's probably like 100+ devs working on it in a dozen teams or more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do you think the Microsoft Teams team uses Microsoft Teams in their teams to develop Microsoft Teams?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Bruh it was a placeholder cuz it took me a sec to find the meme lmao

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn't let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What other video call apps let you do that? Teams lets you mute others for everyone, and I do that semi-regularly for the exact reason you cited.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

In my experience, neither Slack nor other apps (that all blow Teams out of the water) can do that - except Discord, which isn't exactly a common office meeting app.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I chalk most of the shit that makes teams horrible, is closely related to electron and their whole web app as a desktop app bullshit.

Buckle up, because they're doing that same enshittification to outlook next. It's already begun. There's a "new" Outlook. FML.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Am I the only one that prefers it to Slack?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Teams is better for scheduled meetings, but Slack is better for literally everything else.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Genuinely the single worst messaging app I've ever used. Worse than Skype, which is crazy because Microsoft owns that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

and Skype was worse than MSN Messenger. I'm still upset they killed off the better product.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Hey, poison has it's uses too, unlike Teams.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

For the budding gardeners who might see this, do not use dogshit as fertilizer for the plants you eat.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.

We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.

Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.

Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.

Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.

Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've personally never had an issue with Slack, mic/video included. My connection has always been solid, though. Never tried on a shit connection.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's like a graveyard of companies that Microsoft has acquired over the years. Sharing files is one brand name (Sharepoint if i recall), making video calls is another name, planned events is another - every function has a brand name to it, which made me feel like these were the last remaining trace of long-absorbed companies.

But that's just my recollection, i haven't touched Teams since Covid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Isn’t Teams just Microsoft’s attempt to reinvent Skype for Business as a Slack clone? I didn’t think they’d acquired it (other than acquiring Skype and fucking that up, too).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Microsoft spent billions acquiring Skype only for us to be left with Teams

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t care. I’ll take anything that maintains staff meetings from home. Before COVID they were 90% in person.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yup. It’s got a stupid amount of bloat for what it is used for, but it’s aggressively “okay.”

Will take it everyday of the week instead of taking meetings in person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yup, it does exactly what I want it to do: link scheduled meetings to my Outlook calendar (corp requirement) and let me join from a notification box. We have Slack for everything else.

It's not great, but it's certainly okay. Call quality is fine, the chat is crappy but gets the job done (supports links, files, and plain text, which is enough), and audio/camera settings are surprisingly decent. It works well for our use-case, which is scheduled meetings. Impromptu (i.e. useful) meetings happen over Slack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

"aggressively okay" is the best description i've ever head of MS teams

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