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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Little bit of A, lotta bit of B.

Trump was the most garbage candidate in every way in the history of our country.

He basically coasted to victory.

Double-standards for days.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cool, so, we'll see the voters in the primaries going forward, right? Unlike in 2016 and 2020, when they nominated said garbage candidates?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Being a low-information voter doesn't make your takes correct.

But sure, you saw an emotionally cut video online, so now you're convinced the DNC stole the primary from the rightful winner.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm in California I don't even get to vote in primaries.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m in California I don’t even get to vote in primaries.

what.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

California primaries occur on March 5th my incredibly high information friend.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

California primaries occur on March 5th my incredibly high information friend.

How does that prevent you from voting in primaries, again?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It means that their vote doesn't count. I also live in a state that has one of the very last primaries, after the race is already over anyway. By the time I voted for Bernie, he had already dropped out of the race. My vote meant nothing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It means that their vote doesn’t count.

Do you know what Super Tuesday is?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Something that happened long before my state's primary.

What does my vote mean when every candidate has already dropped out anyway?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

By the time I vote in the presidential primary there is typically one name on my ballot.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Who here actually votes in more local elections? Have you voted for the mayor or council members of your city? Sheriff? Literally any office lower than governor, senator or president of the entire country?

The top problem (garbage candidates) is literally caused by the bottom one (voters). There is garbage at the top, because nobody cares enough about the bottom.

Then again, it's not like Trump was ever a politician before running for president...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I am deep in MAGA country (Trump won this county with 70%). All of my local elections are single person.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I do vote in my local elections. I think the problem is actually too much money in politics. The oligarchs support and donate an infinite amount of money to campaigns. That leaves genuine candidates with nothing and little exposure.

I think we should severely limit how much they can donate to campaigns as well as having ranked choice voting, which can help people vote for candidates they like without "throwing" their vote away.

However, the democrats didn't put up kamala against others in a primary for us to vote for. She was simply selected. Moreover, the last time Bernie ran, the democratic party basically sabotaged him. There are deep issues that we need to solve.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

It can be both.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (11 children)

If Kamala was a garbage candidate, what does that make Trump?

For bonus points, how is it not the voters fault considering any rational answer to the above question? You may open your book to look up topical issues like peace, climate, genocide, rights, hate, juvenile bullying, criminal bullying, felony conviction, bigotry (don't miss misogyny relating to to "garbage candidate", see above), and tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If Kamala was a garbage candidate, what does that make Trump?

The guy who told voters what they wanted to hear. "I know you're upset at the world, and I'm going to make it great again."

The best Kamala could do was "I won't do anything differently from the Biden administration."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It is utterly wild to me that Biden had to withdraw from the race because he was so unpopular and the Harris team was like, let’s just tie ourselves as snugly to that man as possible. Real brain geniuses on that team. I just read she was relying on a ex uber exec. And it all made sense.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The constant liar who told voters what they wanted to hear.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

You and I both know he's a con artist who won't fix anything. But when voters don't feel like the establishment is listening to them, that's when they become desperate enough to fall for a con artist. Because at least the con artist made them think there was hope.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Ok...

Weird this hasn't come up before for you.

But different people have different standards.

For Republican voters, it's usually just the letter by someone's name.

Dem voters have always had higher standards than Republican voters.

For bonus points, how is it not the voters fault

Because the entire point of a candidates campaign is to get votes. And Kamala and her campaign couldn't even beat fucking trump.

For all those reasons you just listed he's terrible, Kamala still couldn't beat him.

What metric do you think a candidate and their campaign should be judged by except number of votes?

Bonus points:

Why don't you think a shit tier opponent wouldnt make it easier? And how can a candidate who can't beat trump not be considered "garbage"?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

what does that make Trump?

The 47th POTUS.

topical issues like peace, climate, genocide, rights, hate, juvenile bullying, criminal bullying, felony conviction, bigotry

Every single one of those issues was put to measure last week and came up short to "the economy." Idpol has been the Dem's running charge since Occupy and has netted them exactly (1) election since Obama's win as incumbent. It's just not the winning strategy in national elections.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Even then, Bidens win was despite that, not because of it.

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