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AOC Asked People Who Voted For Both Her And Trump To Explain Why—And Their Answers Are Eye-Opening (www.comicsands.com)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I know lots of people are really down on this but it seems like people just want change. We all know the system isn't working for most people right now and want something different.

Trump is different. Bad but different. If you have little hope make sense to break everything. If there's a real progressive change candidate people will be excited. Change is what is needed

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is something a lot of libs need to understand imo.

You can rail on about how Trump is going to end democracy until the cows come home, it's never going to sway voters. The average person is not doing very well and prospects look really bad for young people and democrats are refusing to acknowledge that things are broken. They are promising the status quo - and the status quo fucking sucks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Run on change for the better. Higher minimum wages, universal health care, paid sick time, paid maternity / paternity leave. This will get votes because people want something better in their pocket books. Student loan forgiveness was a great policy to run on. If it wasn't blocked in courts it would have given a huge boost to Biden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely. Bernie Sanders is incredibly popular (on both sides) and Joe Rogan actually endorsed him in 2020. All this talk about Joe Rogan winning the election for republicans is hilarious when you think about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

It is hilarious and sad that Joe Rogan wields so much power. But the point still stands that we need an economic policy to succeed. We need a Bernie Sanders like policy going forward.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The lesson: some people just like disruption, and equate being against the status quo with being better than the status quo. I think any left-leaning candidate who tries to court these people in the future should tread very carefully.

They care more about the headlines you produce than your policies.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Their excuses are baffling. Harris didn't have policy. Okay, but Trump did? He kept walking about "concepts" of a plan, and lying about wanting P25. Trump is for the people? He is hanging out with, like, the national league of assholes and duchebags. "Harris was scary." BUT NAZIS AREN'T!?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

People were offered center right(D) and extreme right(R).

I voted for least worst harm reduction(D), but would have voted for AND campaigned for extreme left.

To the hopeless, especially the engineered ignorant hopeless, extreme often seems better than the status quo that keeps you in your hopeless state.

Our oligarchs starved public education both to cut their taxes and make their workforce this ignorant. We blame our stooopids for being so stupid, but the owner class that segregates their children into private schools they do fund destroyed public education on purpose, to ensure we can't universally use critical thinking and identify their economic class as the root poison that has destroyed our nation.

The only reason a fascist, extreme right is even allowed and funded by our owners in this country is because fascists love crony market capitalism, the very same reason we aren't ever given a true leftwing option, because whether centrist neoliberal or fascist Republican, they put the market's owners first, and the owners can and do attack any candidates that threaten to reign their power in.

Which is why we're irrevocably boned, and will continue to have the choice of capitalist exploitation with scapegoats(R) and capitalist exploitation with rainbow flags(D) until collapse, as the owners of this system demand capitalist exploitation as this system's primary function, then let us vote on how to address the symptoms it causes, if at all, to make us feel in control.

Reagan was the last chance to maintain any actual control, and we gave it all away for the false promise of golden showers of prosperity in return... one day... just keep making them money... any time now... Just assume it'll be five minutes after your body fails you from laboring for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

promise of golden showers of prosperity in return

Trickle down. We got golden showers, just not the kind you’re describing

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