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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

It’s also around the time they did away with their jobs board thing isn’t it? I got a job through it in 2021 and somewhere after that they sunset it, which was an insane business decision because it was the best job search platform out there.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I've been on SO like ten times altogether since ChatGPT came out. It's so much nicer than the condescending pricks of Stack Overflow. My favourite is when some genius links a question as a duplicate of something that's vaguely similar.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

The first dip is all of us back filling answers with "F U ChatGPT" and getting temporarily banned :)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But can ChatGPT downvote answers into oblivion?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

No it's the one it replies with

[–] [email protected] 222 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This graph is misinformation

Although we have seen a small decline in traffic, in no way is it what the graph is showing (which some have incorrectly interpreted to be a 50% or 35% decrease). This year [2023], overall, we're seeing an average of ~5% less traffic compared to 2022.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

ChatGPT is lying too, and is also really confident about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Says corporations trying to protect their investment.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just wait until there's no stack overflow to scrape.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think it goes further than that. There's two things happening with regard to AI and software development.

1: Stack overflow has become less common as a resource to solve problems. This, as you say has a problem of input into LLMs for future problems to solve.
2: Junior developers are being hired less because of AI. I assume the idea is that seniors will use AI in the same way they would usually use juniors. Except, they've done what business always does. Not think one bit about the future. Today's senior developers are yesterdays junior developers.

The combination of AI performance drop due to point 1, and the lack of new developers because of point 2 makes for potentially, a bad future for the profession.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

As a senior developer I have no idea how I'd get an AI to autonomously keep a small subsystem maintained. If I was replacing junior developers, that's what it has to do.

Everybody in my team gets to own something. What you own depends on your capability. You learn by doing. No dogsbodies doing busy work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I don't think developers are doing it. It's managers making this kind of decision I'd say.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Everybody in my team gets to own something.

Oh I like this.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Everybody in my team gets to own something. What you own depends on your capability.

This is a point I try to constantly make when people don't understand why 2 people have the same title but don't really have the same job, especially in technical fields.

No two people have the same set of skills, so we all end up taking on the tasks we're more capable of than the next person.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Junior developers are being hired less because of AI.

Where are you seeing this? I've not seen any evidence of that, yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've been told about companies in the same field as mine with a hiring freeze on juniors. So it's kinda second hand.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Interesting. I actually thought of it as a replacement for Google. With Google search being broken for years it's the only easy way to get information now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

duckduckgo and searx using duckduckgo work fine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

That's what I use too. Can recommend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

They are really bad for getting correct information and putting it in context: Information literacy and chatbots as search

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah it's replacement for google only if you don't care if any of information received is accurate at all

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Which… is google

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

"New ChatGPT with Ads!

Giving you that Google feeling once again. "

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are other search engines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most of them have the same problem though. The more specific you are the worse the results.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Idk, I rarely have any problems searching for things.

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